The time has come, the parties over. Say bye bye during the bye?

[cooper barrett]

We have really lost the last 4 games only 3 on paper.
IMHO Last week, we got a W. We won the battle against Denver but we did NOT win the war. We scored 1 TD and 5 FGs. Alex's offense racked up less than 200yds of passing, one TD pass, and wait for it. 79 total yards of rushing with 33 yds from Smith himself. Pathetic considering that the Donks racked up within 10 Yds of passing yards and nearly 100 more Yds on the ground. Hunt was held to... yeah, It's bad..46Yds. Denver's total yardage was 167 Yds higher than ours and we had Alex11 leading the league in umpteen different categories. We didn't win we settled for a "w"

Can tell me how the Bronco's defense is rated so good but yet is the same defense that the Eagles look like a small Scientology college team? (before getting their eyes plucked out they were ranked#3: Rankings don't mean shit, We were ranked, probably still are die to averages. How the **** can we justify our poor showing last week when a team we solidly beat makes whiney little bitches out of them? (51 points! YES 51!!!!)

When I look at the Denver stats and see 200yds from a 12 year veteran QB and 46yds by the leagues leading rusher, I don't see Denver as a great defense, I see the Chief's lack of an effective offense. Alex did not lead us to victory, Peters stole it from Denver. The Offense's piss poor performance earned a "w" just not a BIG ASS "W".

Yeah I know what you're going to say... But when push comes to shove, if Peters wouldn't have ripped the ball from Charles' grasp that game would have turned out differently. But I do feel your denial and you can argue all you want. We have been down this road and it doesn't work out well in the long term. I certainly hope that the taste of the Hemlock is to your liking. because unless a big change is made we will be looking at a wildcard game just to make the "real playoffs"

More about Denver later.

Dallas:
The TD pass at the end of the half against the Cowboy's was the only offense we had in the 1st half, I must give Andy credit for looking a dire situation in the eye and making a call that sucker punched the Cowboys. Alex11 should NOT receive credit from Chief's fans or the record books for a TD that was purely Andy and Hill and Co.. Alex threw 20 yds and Hill preformed the magic after the catch, blowing past a stunned, almost deer in the headlights, Dallas defense. Give the Andy credit where it's due. his late night moments, sitting in his office (with a bottle of bourbon?) scheming sessions, payed off BIG TIME. Last week in Denver, not so much...

With a reputation for racking up yards and scoring big numbers Alex11's total 1st half offense (less the Hill catch and run) was limited to 82 yards, resulting in 3 points. The Hail Mary, catch and run, (now referred to as Hill Mary) was ****ing brilliant. Alex11 given the opportunity would have took a knee. Did you hear Romo? Thank the football gods for allowing Andy to dream up and the guts to call that play.
Once again, I can't give Alex11 any credit (maybe a footnote) for the 7 point miracle which will forever bear Hill's name. Alex had failed to move the ball throughout the 1st half and frankly; My dead Grandmother could have thrown the ball to Hill. The 3 Chiefs who blocked for Hill deserve more credit that Alex11.

Hill certainly looked amazing for a few seconds as he had been totally stifled at the line of scrimmage (less than 10 yds?) but in the face of 10 Cowboys somehow steered clear for a critical TD. Dallas, Tony Romo, Alex11, and the league were ****ing stunned by what will be forever referred to as The Hill Mary!!!! I am pretty sure that was a the kind of moment Andy dreams of when he is doing his due diligence unlike any other.

On the 1st possession of the 2nd half, With the momentum from the Hill TD, the offense stepped up, and for 6 minutes, the new and improved Alex11 appears, and leads the team 67 yards for a decisive TD. I'm thinking "HERE WE GO".

Dallas marches down the field 75 Yds in 12 plays and less than 6 and scores 21-17.
Our turn over the ball. 2 dead ball penalties (5Yds ea) and a sack later,; Alex's offense is 3 and out.

Dallas' offense walks it back into the End Zone. 13 plays, 87 yards, <7m 28-17

Alex11 runs 8 plays as the "old Alex" that are basically a series of short 3-6Yd passes, achieving one 1st down. Three downs later, Alex11 is looking at a "do or die" 4th and 8 and throws a 7 yard interception into heavy traffic and that's pretty much the game.

Face it Chiefs fans: Alex tried hard but if you look at the facts: Alex11 led 1 scoring drive in 4 Qtrs. of football, we turned in dismal numbers, and we got our ass served to us on a silver (and blue) platter.But those same numbers won vs Denver. Have you watched the highlights? It's the Hill Mary show for one play, 1 KC scoring drive, and for the next 22 minutes of Dallas shoving the ball down our throats. Not a pretty sight.

Before you go all Sutton on me... We were able to able to hold the Cowboys to 4 td's/ one per quarter and for a team such as Dallas to be contained by a crappy defense(#29?) like ours, is not all that bad. Most expected more.
Who was it that said to be successful in the NFL you must average 1 TD a quarter? Oh, Yeah, that was me!

If you remove the Hill Mary play we looked worse than any game played in this season or last. Taking the Hill Mary off the books,(-56 passing Yds) we see numbers from Alex11 vs, Dallas that look "déjà vu ish".
Total Yds 267
Passing 199Yds--Kelce 73 Yds (Top receiver)
rushing 68 Yds-- Hill 37Yds
offensive TD--1

If we look at the Denver game last week.
Total offense 276
Passing 197Yds--Kelce 133 Yds (Top receiver)
Rushing 79Yds-- Hill 46Yds
Offensive TD--1


I for one feel that maybe it is time to put an old dog out of his misery, (O.K. our misery) He has been a dedicated well seasoned, warrior who tried hard to learn new tricks, perfect new skills, and was doing very well for the first few hunts of the season. Soon Ol' Smitts started back sliding, when it came to the important hunts, he seemed to "bark up the wrong tree. Just couldn't get or keep anything going as of late. (Viagra or FlowMax pitchline?)

I think that Alex may have helped us get a AFCW championship tee shirt, (TBD) I don't think he is going to get us much more after the last 4 games. I am not saying to put him down but maybe send an equipment guy to Onestopfanshop.com and get him a soft bench and a spot by the space heater until his time with us is over.



I think it is time to urge Veatch, Reid, And Clark Hunt, to see the real writing is on the wall and during the bye put the final touches on Mahome's grooming and put plans in the works for his NFL debut in week 10.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Dallas like KC scores a lot of points, our defense has been slowly allowing more points but only a few more where our offensive PPG has dropped off remarkably. Dallas has scored 28 or more points in 6 of their 8 games...2 teams have beaten them when they scored 28 points. I will use H. Panties numbers as I am lazy but I did post them earlier too.



Chiefs offense first 5 games: 31.4 PPG

Chiefs offense last 4 games: 20.5 PPG



Chiefs defense first 5 games: 22.2 PPG allowed

Chiefs defense last 4 games: 24.2 PPG allowed

But it’s all the defenses fault for the offense not scoring or their love of setting up the punter on 3 and out.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Or we failed to score our average PPG. I don't know where to find all passes attempted or yards after catch but when the longest pass is 22 yards (other than Hill Mary) You're doing something wrong. You are not stretching the field. I just never saw a passing game get off the ground and I don't think it was because of Dallas being all that good. Hill had 8 yards other than the Hill Mary. We had 8 receivers and I don't think there were but 2 balls thrown over 10 Yds.

Dude, listen to yourself and think.... Did we really have that much time yesterday to think about a deep route. When he did throw deeper those were the few times we actually blocked the rush. I'm good with Mahommes next year, and trading Alex for a high pick, but your analysis of yesterday is just awful.

[Red Dawg]

I love the Chiefs. I love KC all together but anyone that watches Smith the last 4 games and watches our OL the last 4 games must be really a homer to think this team can be a champion. I don't see it. I don't see a defense that hits hard and I dont see an OL that wins at the LOS. I also dont see a QB that is clutch when we need points. This team has done well to be 6-3. They havent played that great since the opener.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

There is a lot of evidence of Alex Smith performing poorly. No need to make shit up to prove your point.

I am sorry, my Elite Champion 49cc scooter. Better?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Source of your numbers as they are probably the same as mine: Just different

Pro football reference. You probably included Peters score and Hill's PR TD in the offensive numbers if yours were different.

[bevischief]

I435 crossing guard gone...?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

But it’s all the defenses fault for the offense not scoring or their love of setting up the punter on 3 and out.

The cult of Colquitt will not be denied!

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Dallas like KC scores a lot of points, our defense has been slowly allowing more points but only a few more where our offensive PPG has dropped off remarkably. Dallas has scored 28 or more points in 6 of their 8 games...2 teams have beaten them when they scored 28 points. I will use H. Panties numbers as I am lazy but I did post them earlier too.

Chiefs offense first 5 games: 31.4 PPG
Chiefs offense last 4 games: 20.5 PPG

Chiefs defense first 5 games: 22.2 PPG allowed
Chiefs defense last 4 games: 24.2 PPG allowed

Here's who the Cowboys have faced.

Giants (Good D because they hadn't quit on McAdoo here; low score)
Broncos (Waxed another low score)
Cardinals (bad D; season high total at that point)
Rams (kudos to them here in a losing effort)
Packers (Another below avg D)
49ers (shit)
Redskins (below average D in sloppy weather; major advantage)
Us (aids)

They are racking up stats and W's against some garbo D's.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

They are a mediocre passing team. Elite is really overstating things.

The Rams and Eagles have an elite Offense. The Cowboys don't.

Wrong: I think that both teams are top tier offenses but you have to admit with as many winning games in a row, the Eagles PPG (31.4 #2) Dal 29.2 #4.
The 7 TD's that the Eagles put up Sunday it has pushed them to Most TD per game over Dallas by .1.
Passing TDs per game: Eagles #1 at 2.6 and Dallas at 2,0
Rushing TD's as Dallas leads at 1.4 vs Eagle .8 per game.

I think you can call them both elite offenses.

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=Hammock Parties;13203035]Top 5 offense =/ elite

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by penguinz

The QB is more vulnerable sliding than going headfirst.

They were not useless, we got the touchdown in the 3rd because he slid.

You should furnish a proof source for that comment.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Wrong.

Tits or GTFO Prove it?

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Wrong: I think that both teams are top tier offenses but you have to admit with as many winning games in a row, the Eagles PPG (31.4 #2) Dal 29.2 #4.
The 7 TD's that the Eagles put up Sunday it has pushed them to Most TD per game over Dallas by .1.
Passing TDs per game: Eagles #1 at 2.6 and Dallas at 2,0
Rushing TD's as Dallas leads at 1.4 vs Eagle .8 per game.

I think you can call them both elite offenses.

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Wrong. Stop blindly looking at a stat sheet.

One team just ****ed an elite D in the ass and has the best playing QB currently and another can't handle high end Defenses.

Some of you ****ers. I swear

[cooper barrett]

Some of what you say is true,

I already address some of them.

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Nope. I am on point and you're just flat wrong.

The Cowboys aren't an elite Offense and stat padded against a run of shitty Defenses. An elite Offense destroys a #1 Defense.

The Chiefs let Terrance Williams wipe his balls allover the Defense and still about gave up a hund to EE with a gameplan set to stop him.

Marinelli figured us out completely and Andy had no clue how to adjust. Alex went into his dink and dunk shell.

Our DL is a fat turd and the Cowboys did a great job.craahing with their front 4 while Andy Heck fingered his ass on the sideline.

It was a team loss.

Try again.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by Best22

If our offense scored more points, we'd be 9-0

If our defense was better, we'd be 9-0


Offense is top ten. Defense is bottom 2. Team is 6-3. I'm pretty sure I know which side is more responsible for the record

Whats changed?

Chiefs offense first 5 games: 31.4 PPG
Chiefs offense last 4 games: 20.5 PPG

Chiefs defense first 5 games: 22.2 PPG allowed
Chiefs defense last 4 games: 24.2 PPG allowed

[ChiefsLV]

I'm rooting for Alex play well so we can get the best trade value for him. Beyond that, I've lost faith in this team, even at 6-3 and understand why others have too. It seems like they're just good enough to get to that first playoff game and lose.