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Old 01-08-2018, 08:53 AM   #1
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You could if you know what their agenda is, problem is, you don't always know.

Like in that Atlanta game are they going to prop up the player in Ryan or the LA market?

WWE is fake but guess what even if you watch all of it you don't always know who's going to win do you?
Ahh, it's an obvious, yet still secret agenda. Makes sense...
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:55 AM   #2
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Ahh, it's an obvious, yet still secret agenda. Makes sense...
Look what you're asking me to believe is that NFL officials are completely incompetent boobs who can be outperformed by kids. And you're also asking me to believe that even though they are that stupid their ****ups always seem to favor certain teams, how's that make sense?
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:59 AM   #3
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Look what you're asking me to believe is that NFL officials are completely incompetent boobs who can be outperformed by kids. And you're also asking me to believe that even though they are that stupid their ****ups always seem to favor certain teams, how's that make sense?
Occam's Razor, man.

They don't always **** up to favor certain teams. That's just the thing. You're seeing what you want to see.
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:00 AM   #4
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Occam's Razor, man.

They don't always **** up to favor certain teams. That's just the thing. You're seeing what you want to see.
When is the last time the Patriots had a call go against them?
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:00 AM   #5
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Low hit on Bortles went uncalled.

The league plays favorites. The NFL isn't out to "screw the Chiefs," it's just that we don't get treated like the favorites. We don't have a Brady or an Antonio Brown. We aren't the Steelers or Broncos.

Many fans believe if Mahomes becomes a good, young, marketable quarterback the problem will change. Alex Smith is none of those things. The feeling is the league wants the masses to watch playoffs between big names. The league wants to keep "big names" healthy.

The league hasn't "gone soft." They are just overprotective of a few players. Nobody in the NFL cares if Bortles or Tyrod get roughed up. But you better not breath on Rodgers and Brady
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:56 PM   #7
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I think this is the closest to accurate. The refs aren't actively trying to generate any particular outcome, but they bend their judgment to the cachet of the players involve in any particular situation.

And if there's a single argument in favor of Mahomes I actively loathe, this is it.

If we actually have the prospect of being a more successful team SOLELY because THE LEAGUE FINDS PATRICK PRETTY and POTENTIALLY LUCRATIVE, I don't want that success and I don't want to watch anything associated with that product.
You might want to develop a new hobby, then, because this is how it works now.
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:14 PM
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Ahh, it's an obvious, yet still secret agenda. Makes sense...
It's always rigged when we lose. Duh.
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:57 AM   #10
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It's always rigged when we lose. Duh.
It's pretty well rigged either way, if Patrick Mahomes turns into a face of the league guess who will get some calls in their favor?
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:19 AM   #11
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It's pretty well rigged either way, if Patrick Mahomes turns into a face of the league guess who will get some calls in their favor?
Might actually get a DPI or two...
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:58 AM   #12
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Ahh, it's an obvious, yet still secret agenda. Makes sense...
I don't like this argument.


It takes one official to nudge a game in a certain direction.


I hate the fact that this is even questionable because I love football damnit. The NFL is to blame whether they are nudging games or not. If they would clean up the horrific officiating and not let the worst ref umpire a playoff game we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:00 AM   #13
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I don't like this argument.


It takes one official to nudge a game in a certain direction.


I hate the fact that this is even questionable because I love football damnit. The NFL is to blame whether they are nudging games or not. If they would clean up the horrific officiating and not let the worst ref umpire a playoff game we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Every game had bad game changing calls in this week, the Chiefs game was just the worst.

How would you feel to be a Carolina fan today? Driving to a possible playoff win and to have it taken away by a questionable penalty.
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:05 AM   #14
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I don't like this argument.


It takes one official to nudge a game in a certain direction.


I hate the fact that this is even questionable because I love football damnit. The NFL is to blame whether they are nudging games or not. If they would clean up the horrific officiating and not let the worst ref umpire a playoff game we wouldn't be having this conversation.
The speed of the game is such that refs don't really have time to do much nefarious plotting during the course of a play. They're simply incompetent. It's just more noticeable in the age of dozens of HD camera angles and large screen TVs. It's noticeable in baseball too.
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:19 AM   #15
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The speed of the game is such that refs don't really have time to do much nefarious plotting during the course of a play. They're simply incompetent. It's just more noticeable in the age of dozens of HD camera angles and large screen TVs. It's noticeable in baseball too.
Absolutely agree but if you have all this great technology then get the damn play called right no matter how much time it takes.

IMO instant replay,concussion protocol,former refs in the broadcast booth are just additions that can help manipulate a game and convince the viewer of why certain calls are being made.
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