So why do they want pm2 to be under center

[jaa1025]

This is very overblown.

The Chiefs ran out of the shotgun 72% of the time last year and had the #5 offense in the NFL.

Pittsburgh ran their offense out of shotgun 71% of the time and finished with the #3 offense this year.

Chargers were at 66% in shotgun and finished #4 offensively in the NFL.

Philly was at 71% in shotgun and finished #7 offensively in the NFL.

Only 11 teams ran under center 50% of the time or greater. Most teams ran out of shotgun more than they did under center.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

This is very overblown.

The Chiefs ran out of the shotgun 72% of the time last year and had the #5 offense in the NFL.

Pittsburgh ran their offense out of shotgun 71% of the time and finished with the #3 offense this year.

Chargers were at 66% in shotgun and finished #4 offensively in the NFL.

Philly was at 71% in shotgun and finished #7 offensively in the NFL.

Only 11 teams ran under center 50% of the time or greater. Most teams ran out of shotgun more than they did under center.

Running from under center still needs to be an option, particularly in short yardage and goalline situations. Unless you want to let the defense know you're going to run when under center every time you have to be able to pass from under center.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Running from under center still needs to be an option, particularly in short yardage and goalline situations. Unless you want to let the defense know you're going to run when under center every time you have to be able to pass from under center.

You mean like he did in Denver a few times?

[jaa1025]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Running from under center still needs to be an option, particularly in short yardage and goalline situations. Unless you want to let the defense know you're going to run when under center every time you have to be able to pass from under center.

Running from shotgun gives you Run Pass Option which the Chiefs love to run. It also opens up things for a QB. Running from center is and always will be an option. Mahomes has shown that he can run plays from under center. It's a complete non issue.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

Running from shotgun gives you Run Pass Option which the Chiefs love to run. It also opens up things for a QB. Running from center is and always will be an option. Mahomes has shown that he can run plays from under center. It's a complete non issue.

I don't see how you can say it's a non issue. Nobody said he has to run a majority of plays from center, but it's still something that has to be an option in any offense. There's a reason no NFL team runs exclusively out of the shotgun.

Without the threat of a pass play from under center defenders will always key on the run when under center.

It's still something to monitor. I'm sure Mahomes will pick it up fine, but it's a false assumption to just say it's not an issue and not to worry about it. I can almost guarantee it's been an emphasis in practice since he's been here. Even if he operates out of the shotgun the majority of the time, plays from under center are still going to be a part of the playbook and something he has to learn.

[jaa1025]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I don't see how you can say it's a non issue. Nobody said he has to run a majority of plays from center, but it's still something that has to be an option in any offense. There's a reason no NFL team runs exclusively out of the shotgun.

Without the threat of a pass play from under center defenders will always key on the run when under center.

It's still something to monitor. I'm sure Mahomes will pick it up fine, but it's a false assumption to just say it's not an issue and not to worry about it. I can almost guarantee it's been an emphasis in practice since he's been here. Even if he operates out of the shotgun the majority of the time, plays from under center are still going to be a part of the playbook and something he has to learn.

It's a non issue because he has shown that he can do that without issue.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

It's a non issue because he has shown that he can do that without issue.

I'm as big a fan of Mahomes as anyone, but he hasn't proven anything yet. He's still raw. I'm confident he can do it, but it hasn't been proven yet. 1 game doesn't prove anything.

[jaa1025]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I'm as big a fan of Mahomes as anyone, but he hasn't proven anything yet. He's still raw. I'm confident he can do it, but it hasn't been proven yet. 1 game doesn't prove anything.

1 Game proves that mechanically, he can do it.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I'm as big a fan of Mahomes as anyone, but he hasn't proven anything yet. He's still raw. I'm confident he can do it, but it hasn't been proven yet. 1 game doesn't prove anything.

Jesus Murphy, he can do it. He could do it after a week in camp. It is NOT difficult to pick up. People are saying it is overblown because it is by definition.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I don't see how you can say it's a non issue. Nobody said he has to run a majority of plays from center, but it's still something that has to be an option in any offense. There's a reason no NFL team runs exclusively out of the shotgun.

Without the threat of a pass play from under center defenders will always key on the run when under center.

It's still something to monitor. I'm sure Mahomes will pick it up fine, but it's a false assumption to just say it's not an issue and not to worry about it. I can almost guarantee it's been an emphasis in practice since he's been here. Even if he operates out of the shotgun the majority of the time, plays from under center are still going to be a part of the playbook and something he has to learn.

It's not a non-factor, but it's way less important than it used to be.

3/4 of plays are run out of shotgun. The majority of those plays are pass plays. The majority of plays under center are run plays, as in something like 80%.

So most of the reason you need to be able to do it is to catch the defense off-guard a very small % of the time. In which case the defense is off balance anyway. Obviously an oversimplification. But Mahomes needs to only be proficient at it.