Brady retire?

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

But he lost a playoff game with a loaded Niners team to a good-not-great Vikings team, going 12 for 26 with a killer pick six before he was BENCHED by Walsh.

But hey, it was the Super Bowl, and he was undefeated there, so that means...something. I mean, it's better to NOT get to the Super Bowl at all than it is to get there and lose.

Montana never lost a Super Bowl and never even threw an interception in a Super Bowl. And he did it in an era where teams were still allowed to play defense. Can SysTom say the same?

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Montana never lost a Super Bowl and never even threw an interception in a Super Bowl. And he did it in an era where teams were still allowed to play defense. Can SysTom say the same?

He also played Super Bowls against AFC teams in an era when for the most part the NFC was beating the AFC like a drum every damn year. Alot of those games weren't even competitive, and it didn't much matter which NFC team it was that was there that year.

Meh, whatever. Pointless debate. You won't be convincing me of anything, and I won't be convincing you of anything either. I loved Joe Montana too. If you want to keep him as your number 1, I'm fine with that. Not that you care, of course.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

He also played Super Bowls against AFC teams in an era when for the most part the NFC was beating the AFC like a drum every damn year. Alot of those games weren't even competitive, and it didn't much matter which NFC team it was that was there that year.

Which just goes to show how tough the NFC was back then. And Montana had to go through that gauntlet every year.

In contrast, the AFC has been a total joke in Brady's career. It's been the Patriots, Steelers and Peyton Show with occasional cameo appearances by the Ravens.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Which just goes to show how tough the NFC was back then. And Montana had to go through that gauntlet every year.

In contrast, the AFC has been a total joke in Brady's career. It's been the Patriots, Steelers and Peyton Show with occasional cameo appearances by the Ravens.

I think teams were better then. Athletes are bigger faster stronger today but with the extra practices teams executed better than today. But you can't really knock someone because of their level of competition. It's not like they are fighters and pick their opponents. I always thought montana was the best but have to say brady if I use the same criteria I used to pick montana.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Which just goes to show how tough the NFC was back then. And Montana had to go through that gauntlet every year.

In contrast, the AFC has been a total joke in Brady's career. It's been the Patriots, Steelers and Peyton Show with occasional cameo appearances by the Ravens.

Montana playoff finish every year in San Francisco

1981. Won SB 26-21
1982. None
1983. L 21-24 to WSH
1984. Won SB 38-16
1985. L 3-17 NYG
1986. L 3-49 NYG
1987. L 24-36 MIN
1988. Won SB 20-16
1989. Won SB 55-10
1990. L 13-15 NYG

So Montana won the NFC 4 times but was owned by the Giants and their mediocre quarterbacks

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Best22

Montana playoff finish every year

1981. Won SB 26-21
1982. None
1983. L 21-24 to WSH
1984. Won SB 38-16
1985. L 3-17 NYG
1986. L 3-49 NYG
1987. L 24-36 MIN
1988. Won SB 20-16
1989. Won SB 55-10
1990. L 13-15 NYG

So Montana won the NFC 4 times but was owned by the Giants and their mediocre quarterbacks

Yes, but that Giants defense was loaded. Brady would have pissed his pants and curled up into the fetal position if he had to play against those guys under 1980s rules. He's used to the glorified flag football league where defense isn't allowed - and he still gets coddled by the refs more than any other QB in this soft era.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Yes, but that Giants defense was loaded. Brady would have pissed his pants and curled up into the fetal position if he had to play against those guys under 1980s rules. He's used to the glorified flag football league where defense isn't allowed - and he still gets coddled by the refs more than any other QB in this soft era.

Wait, I thought all that mattered was QB vs QB. So clearly Phil Simms > Joe MOntana in your mind right? RIGHT?!?


And you're also right that Brady hasn't been tough at all in his career. I mean, except for playing for 18 years straight and never missing a single snap except (1) ACL -- lost 2008 and (2) missed second half of AFCCG in 2001, he's been a total wuss.


And then there are troublesome facts, and how they disprove your pathetic belief that he is "more protected" than other QBs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment...team_20092015/



But hey, don't let facts interrupt your narrative.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Wait, I thought all that mattered was QB vs QB. So clearly Phil Simms > Joe MOntana in your mind right? RIGHT?!?


And you're also right that Brady hasn't been tough at all in his career. I mean, except for playing for 18 years straight and never missing a single snap except (1) ACL -- lost 2008 and (2) missed second half of AFCCG in 2001, he's been a total wuss.


And then there are troublesome facts, and how they disprove your pathetic belief that he is "more protected" than other QBs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment...team_20092015/



But hey, don't let facts interrupt your narrative.

They lost so go away. Brady is an old geezer. It almost over for ya.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by Best22

Montana playoff finish every year in San Francisco

1981. Won SB 26-21
1982. None
1983. L 21-24 to WSH
1984. Won SB 38-16
1985. L 3-17 NYG
1986. L 3-49 NYG
1987. L 24-36 MIN
1988. Won SB 20-16
1989. Won SB 55-10
1990. L 13-15 NYG

So Montana won the NFC 4 times but was owned by the Giants and their mediocre quarterbacks

Who was going to beat the 85 bears? 86 was Lawrence Taylor's best season.
There were more good teams when montana played but that's not brady's fault. I say to any chief's fan who is skeptical Who's track record would you want as a qb? I'll take the one with the most SBs for my team any day of the week.