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Old 08-27-2018, 04:28 PM  
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Let's take a CLOSER look at the defense

So many are in panic mode, so many are searching for someone to talk them off of the ledge, so I figured we might as well take a closer look at our potential starting defense come opening day.

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Nelson (CB)
Fuller (CB)
Berry (S)
Murray (S)


Front seven

Ragland (ILB)
Hitchens (ILB)
Houston (OLB)
Ford/Kpass (OLB)
Bailey (DE)
Jones (DE)
Williams (DT)


Now, there is still time for acquisitions but as we stand right now that is the defense. Is it THAT bad yall? We're all going nuts about it and even Nick Wright was saying "it's the worse defense in the NFL", but hold on, this defense hasn't even played together yet so how can anyone come to that conclusion? IF we're judging the defense solely on what we've seen in preseason then I think we're being naive. Fuller is a stud, Berry is proven when healthy, Ragland impressed last season, Hitchens is a workhorse, Jones is a rising star and Houston is one of the best in the game.

We have plenty of talent on this defense. We just have to see them all on the field at the same damn time and then pray that they stay healthy. Because man for man I don't think those eleven players are bad at all.
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Old 08-27-2018, 05:44 PM   #31
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We really need Houston to be a star this year. I do think that he's finally getting back into top form, but we need that.
He and Ford combined for like 50 snaps in the preseason. Definitely didn't help the pass rush look as good, one would think.
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Old 08-27-2018, 05:44 PM   #32
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I'm down with a Jones-Nnadi-Williams base defensive line. I think they'd keep our ILBs clean all day.
I’m pretty pumped for Nnadi. I think he’s gonna be special and will be a big contributor by seasons end.
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Old 08-27-2018, 05:46 PM   #33
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The fact that we're hanging our hopes on 2-3 people who were cut by other teams becoming difference-makers for us - just to perhaps be able to field a mediocre defense - really says a lot
I don't think those 2-3 players make them mediocre, or good, or bad necessarily. I think that those players though could be better than what we have at say CB3 or safety, and so if you can acquire upgrades, why not?

It is my personal belief that the defense will look better week one because they will actually 'show their cards', so to speak. Press coverage, blitzes, etc. All starters playing, ideally, for a full game.

If those things don't happen, well... it'll be a shit show. All season.
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Old 08-27-2018, 06:00 PM   #34
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seems we always panic in P/S - this year more so - but for what seems to be good reasons.
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Old 08-27-2018, 06:11 PM   #35
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Hell, based on our D talent I'll go out on a limb and say the only upset (by Vegas) will be Pitt all year. Yes, I think we'll shoot our whad on the Pitt game.
Pitt has our number and Mahomes won't get any time to pass regardless of Shazier's absence. Pitt's D-line owns our o-line period.
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Old 08-27-2018, 06:16 PM   #36
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Old 08-27-2018, 06:17 PM   #37
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Secondary

Nelson (CB)
Fuller (CB)
Berry (S)
Murray (S)


Front seven

Ragland (ILB)
Hitchens (ILB)
Houston (OLB)
Ford(OLB)
Bailey (DE)
Jones (DE)
Williams (DT)
That is our base defense. We will spend most of our time in Nickel which will be more like.
Secondary

Nelson (CB)
Fuller (CB)
Amerson (CB)
Berry (S)
Murray (S)

Front seven

Hitchens (ILB)
Houston (OLB)
Ford/Kpass (OLB)
Bailey (DE)
Jones (DE)
Williams (DT)

Now how do you feel about the starting defense?
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Old 08-27-2018, 06:36 PM   #38
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The fact that we're hanging our hopes on 2-3 people who were cut by other teams becoming difference-makers for us - just to perhaps be able to field a mediocre defense - really says a lot
Meaningful snaps doesn’t equal difference maker
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The fact that we're hanging our hopes on 2-3 people who were cut by other teams becoming difference-makers for us - just to perhaps be able to field a mediocre defense - really says a lot
We have that now if you think about it.
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Old 08-27-2018, 07:44 PM   #40
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That is our base defense. We will spend most of our time in Nickel which will be more like.
Secondary

Nelson (CB)
Fuller (CB)
Amerson (CB)
Berry (S)
Murray (S)

Front seven

Hitchens (ILB)
Houston (OLB)
Ford/Kpass (OLB)
Bailey (DE)
Jones (DE)
Williams (DT)

Now how do you feel about the starting defense?
Amerson is the fourth cb according to reports from practice today, feel better?
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Old 08-27-2018, 07:59 PM   #41
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Amerson is the fourth cb according to reports from practice today, feel better?
No Scandrick is no better in reality.
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Old 08-27-2018, 08:26 PM   #43
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Too many cry babies kept moaning, so I toned it down a little
The reason to point that out isn't to complain. It's to keep a conversation about the defense in 1 thread instead of breaking it apart. It waters down the conversation. Now a great point about the defense needs to be repeated 3 times in each thread.

There is nothing wrong with your point. Whether I agree or not you at least backed it up with something. But your need to have the thought be seen by everyone is breaking up the conversion that was already happening in another thread.
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One problem with this particular on paper argument is that it only shows 2 corners. In today's NFL we all know you better be looking at 3 corners minimum to judge your secondary with how often they will be out there. Really need to look at 4.
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Old 08-27-2018, 09:34 PM   #45
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