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Old 03-05-2019, 01:40 PM   #1
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Because Dee Ford has shown he can give you a season with zero sacks. He's done it multiple times.

Flowers is consistent, which is something fans don't give a shit about, but every single ****ing NFL coach values above virtually everything else.
Consisntenly average. Why the hell would you pay for that? Speak and Kpasso can give us 7 sacks.

FFS, Allen Bailey gave us 6 sacks and CP has wanted him gone for years.

Consistently average is NOT what coaches are looking for.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:13 PM   #2
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Consisntenly average. Why the hell would you pay for that? Speak and Kpasso can give us 7 sacks.

FFS, Allen Bailey gave us 6 sacks and CP has wanted him gone for years.

Consistently average is NOT what coaches are looking for.
Trey Flowers isn't consistently average.

He had 6 less QB pressures than Dee Ford last year. QB pressures are nearly as important as sacks themselves. He also had 3 forced fumbles.

You've got a completely one-sided, myopic view of the conversation.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:27 PM   #3
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Trey Flowers isn't consistently average.

He had 6 less QB pressures than Dee Ford last year. QB pressures are nearly as important as sacks themselves. He also had 3 forced fumbles.

You've got a completely one-sided, myopic view of the conversation.
Would have to compare their pressure rates, otherwise we're comparing apples to oranges.

As of right now, having 6 less than Dee Ford is not a favorable argument for you considering how often Ford dropped into coverage compared to Flowers.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:32 PM   #4
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You also have to account for opportunities. Our pass rush had more opportunities than any other. Teams threw the ball on us more than any other team in the league. That inflates the sack numbers.
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Old 03-05-2019, 04:33 PM   #6
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Consisntenly average. Why the hell would you pay for that? Speak and Kpasso can give us 7 sacks.

FFS, Allen Bailey gave us 6 sacks and CP has wanted him gone for years.

Consistently average is NOT what coaches are looking for.
No, they are looking for consistently excellent. But, I believe they will choose consistently average over occasionally brilliant and occasionally terrible.
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Consisntenly average. Why the hell would you pay for that? Speak and Kpasso can give us 7 sacks.

FFS, Allen Bailey gave us 6 sacks and CP has wanted him gone for years.

Consistently average is NOT what coaches are looking for.
What makes you think speaks and kpass can give us 7 sacks a year a piece?
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