Update on Tyreek Hill

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

That's a ****ing trick question.

If he played for those teams of course not, because it's shit-talking ammo. You don't just IGNORE that as a fan. Everyone is a hypocrite regarding teams they love and teams they hate.

I'm just in a 'wait and see' stage. Seeing the kid out of the house isn't a good sign though. At this point you're just hoping for negligence and stupidity rather than anything violent.

It's actually possible not to be an amoral piece of shit. Go over to the Mizzou thread and look at how many people circled the wagons for Tre Williams.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's actually possible not to be an amoral piece of shit.

The ****?!?!

What's amoral about hoping that Tyreek is eventually established to be at worst inattentive, and if possible free from blame in this?

We don't know what has happened yet. It would be different if we did and hoped he got away with wrongdoing. But there's nothing amoral about hoping that he didn't do wrong, or did the least wrong that could have resulted in this situation.

You bring up if he played for a rival team. In a fit of snark, I'd probably sling some shit, but down to brass tacks, I wouldn't wish even my worst enemy to be culpable of the worst scenario, just because circumstances suggest.

There is abundant morality in holding hope for the most innocent, least traumatizing, explanation for any adverse situation.

If I see a vehicle collision out on the roads, I don't try to load up on the culpability in my mind without adequate information. My mind doesn't immediately leap to hoping someone was intoxicated and hoping they lose everything and go to jail. I tend to the more optimistic when my information is limited. Hoping that no one is seriously hurt, and hoping no one made an egregious error that they will have to live with for the rest of their life.

What amoral in that perspective?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

The ****?!?!

What's amoral about hoping that Tyreek is eventually established to be at worst inattentive, and if possible free from blame in this?

We don't know what has happened yet. It would be different if we did and hoped he got away with wrongdoing. But there's nothing amoral about hoping that he didn't do wrong, or did the least wrong that could have resulted in this situation.

You bring up if he played for a rival team. In a fit of snark, I'd probably sling some shit, but down to brass tacks, I wouldn't wish even my worst enemy to be culpable of the worst scenario, just because circumstances suggest.

There is abundant morality in holding hope for the most innocent, least traumatizing, explanation for any adverse situation.

If I see a vehicle collision out on the roads, I don't try to load up on the culpability in my mind without adequate information. My mind doesn't immediately leap to hoping someone was intoxicated and hoping they lose everything and go to jail. I tend to the more optimistic when my information is limited. Hoping that no one is seriously hurt, and hoping no one made an egregious error that they will have to live with for the rest of their life.

What amoral in that perspective?

Being amoral is giving someone a benefit of the doubt you wouldn't extend to someone else based upon the laundry on their back on Sundays. That's all this is.

If Pooka Williams beats the shit out of a girl, you shouldn't be looking for every rationalization possible for him to keep playing for KU, just like MU fans shouldn't be looking for rationalizations to exonerate Tre Williams.

This entire website calls Roethlisberger a rapist, but they'll continually bury their heads in the sand and victim blame to paint Hill in a positive light. It's ****ing bullshit. Full stop.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Being amoral is giving someone a benefit of the doubt you wouldn't extend to someone else based upon the laundry on their back on Sundays. That's all this is.

If Pooka Williams beats the shit out of a girl, you shouldn't be looking for every rationalization possible for him to keep playing for KU, just like MU fans shouldn't be looking for rationalizations to exonerate Tre Williams.

This entire website calls Roethlisberger a rapist, but they'll continually bury their heads in the sand and victim blame to paint Hill in a positive light. It's ****ing bullshit. Full stop.

I told you I try to give everyone the 'benefit of the doubt' if I indeed don't have enough information.

I don't give a shit about your ancillary MU/KU squabbles.

And Roethlisberger is called a rapist because someone ACCUSED him of rape, an adult woman, with her own voice, using her words to say things, more than one IIRC.

Very different from our knowledge base regarding Hill at the moment.