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Old 04-25-2019, 07:50 PM   #1
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Sadly minorities are "guilty" until proven innocent in many American's eyes. And this will never change. She recorded him and made accusations which he denied. But hey, the mob party has formed and they want blood. I just pray the Chiefs are smarter today than they were with Kareem. Show some guts and weather the storm because the only team who loses here is us, no-one else. and the same biased hypocrites will turn around and cry when Tyreek signs with another team and we lose in the playoffs AGAIN.
That's partly true (from my perspective) ... the racial aspect, I mean. There's a long-established trope of the "Violent Black Man". I get it. Not that I believe that race has any significant correlation to violent behavior. I think upbringing does, though .. more of a "nurture over nature" idea ...

As for hypocrites ... hell, they're everywhere these days. Always have been. That's nature/nurture stuff too, usually. Or a Jungian Complex in which the uninformed observer subconsciously attempts to attach an icon or archetype to a person or behavior. They often can't help themselves.

Then there's the child abuser personality under discussion. Does this tape (as it exists on this thread) provide or offer conclusive evidence that Tyreek abuses his kid? I'm not hearing it. Do I hear a woman try to entrap him while secretly recording their conversation? That's another question entirely ... then again, I'm probably just stupid, racist, or a hypocrite. Or something worse ...

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Old 04-25-2019, 07:24 PM   #2
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So ... am I reading this thread right?

A bunch of Planeteers think this tape (as presented here) is evidence of child abuse?

Even damning evidence?

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He didn't deny anything when she was talking about him punching the kid in the chest and whipping him with a belt. In fact, he simply responds with, "Okay, so what about you? What you gonna do?"

Do you not consider punching a three-year-old child and whipping him with a belt to be child abuse?
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:29 PM   #3
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He didn't deny anything when she was talking about him punching the kid in the chest and whipping him with a belt. In fact, he simply responds with, "Okay, so what about you? What you gonna do?"

Do you not consider punching a three-year-old child and whipping him with a belt to be child abuse?
It's a rationalization because Hill is a very good WR. If Hill sucked they would clearly see the abuse.
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:39 PM   #4
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So ... am I reading this thread right?

A bunch of Planeteers think this tape (as presented here) is evidence of child abuse?

Even damning evidence?

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Not me.

Only thing it's evidence of is that she's a crazy botch who is an ADMITTED LIAR who constantly baits Tyreek.

Anyone notice this shit always happens when she's pregnant and hormonal??
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:46 PM   #5
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Not me.

Only thing it's evidence of is that she's a crazy botch who is an ADMITTED LIAR who constantly baits Tyreek.

Anyone notice this shit always happens when she's pregnant and hormonal??
Dude. Come on, man. You can't be this bad.
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Old 04-25-2019, 08:37 PM   #6
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So ... am I reading this thread right?

A bunch of Planeteers think this tape (as presented here) is evidence of child abuse?

Even damning evidence?

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I will have to go back and listen again but I'm pretty sure the most damning bit is when she accuses him of punching him in the chest and he definitely doesn't denny it, and I think he gets defensive and talks about her transgressions. Couple that with beating/ whipping a 3 year old child with a belt? That is without a doubt child abuse. How is it not?

As a father, listening to that audio was more than enough for me to levy child abuse charges. With his history I believe Goodell should end his career. It only hurts from a purely football aspect. He was given a second chance and appears to have made zero changes and gotten worse which is hard to imagine.
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:00 PM   #7
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Not that I want to defend what looks like a child abuser here, but why didn't Espinal give the authorities her recording at the outset of any sort of investigation?
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:10 PM   #8
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Not that I want to defend what looks like a child abuser here, but why didn't Espinal give the authorities her recording at the outset of any sort of investigation?
Schefter said that she gave it to her girlfriend to keep for protection, or something like that. Her girlfriend gave it to KCTV.
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Schefter said that she gave it to her girlfriend to keep for protection, or something like that. Her girlfriend gave it to KCTV.
So the media was going to protect her and her kid.. and not the police?
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:11 PM   #10
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Not that I want to defend what looks like a child abuser here, but why didn't Espinal give the authorities her recording at the outset of any sort of investigation?
She had 50 million reasons to cover up
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She had 50 million reasons to cover up
OK, so why bring out an audio now then? Maybe they were about to blow the whistle on her. Who knows? Protection? From WHAT?!!!
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OK, so why bring out an audio now then? Maybe they were about to blow the whistle on her. Who knows? Protection? From WHAT?!!!
Someone didn't want to take the risk before but now wanted to make sure he didn't get away with it is my bet.
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Someone didn't want to take the risk before but now wanted to make sure he didn't get away with it is my bet.
Seems likely, based on how the DA's presser went yesterday.
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Someone didn't want to take the risk before but now wanted to make sure he didn't get away with it is my bet.
So you act all phony and walk hand in hand into court? Slimy
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OK, so why bring out an audio now then? Maybe they were about to blow the whistle on her. Who knows? Protection? From WHAT?!!!
Maybe the friend released it once the DA said not enough evidence
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