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Old 06-23-2019, 01:59 PM  
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ONE HILLUVA STORY - HOW TYREEK IS NOT ONLY INNOCENT – HE IS A VICTIM
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:33 AM   #3481
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:34 AM   #3482
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:34 AM   #3483
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:40 AM   #3484
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You should be FAR more concerned that local media had this stuff for TWO YEARS and did NOTHING.

Tyreek Hill supposedly BEAT THE HELL out of this girl and she looked like THAT?

DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:43 AM   #3485
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You should be FAR more concerned that local media had this stuff for TWO YEARS and did NOTHING.

Tyreek Hill supposedly BEAT THE HELL out of this girl and she looked like THAT?

DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.
Why would they have ever posted them?

Do you think tyreek would have liked that? No way imo
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:43 AM   #3486
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:46 AM   #3487
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If my memory hasn't failed entirely, I think I read somewhere along the way that the authorities only used selected photographs in the case ... not all of them ... and only those photos were/are available. I also believe that somewhere we were told that the police only released certain pics as part of the public record.

Or maybe this was speculation by some anonymous twitter geek. Nonetheless, those tidbits were stated somewhere along the way, as I recall.

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Why would they have ever posted them?

Do you think tyreek would have liked that? No way imo
Legal analysis of the prelim shows how flimsy the case was and why he plead guilty. Both of these things cast extreme doubt on the idea that he plead guilty because he actually did it.

The photos are obvious. They do not show DV.
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Legal analysis of the prelim shows how flimsy the case was and why he plead guilty. Both of these things cast extreme doubt on the idea that he plead guilty because he actually did it.

The photos are obvious. They do not show DV.
How can it simultaneously show a flimsy case AND why he would plead guilty? Don't the two statements contradict each other?

And those photos COULD definitely show DV...
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So ... I work with a black audio engineer from time to time. He is now 35 years old, but when he was 19, he was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana with intent to sell.

What the popo actually found was a roach, some seeds and twigs, and a set of scales in his home. He had been stopped for a traffic violation, they found the roach in the car, asked him for permission to search his apartment and he granted them permission without thinking about the scales or feeling any sense of guilt.

A few procedural steps later, he's in court for jury selection (he could not afford a private attorney and was represented by a public defender). This occurred in Shelbyville Tennessee ... a very, very conservative town. The jury pool included only 7 black persons. During voir dire, it was determined by the judge that each of those 7 people were either distant family members (3rd cousins and the like) or friends of the family. (Not a big black population in Shelbyville.) End result? Zero black jury members.

Convicted. Sentenced to 7 years. Out in 4. Probation for the remainder. Could not find a job for years because of his record.

Now, this is a very intelligent guy who actually got two degrees while incarcerated and speaks on behalf of the Department of Corrections promoting an initiative that educates prisoners. Nice dude. Utterly harmless. Entire life screwed up to this point.

The moral of the story is that a courtroom is not a comfortable or pleasant place to find yourself if you're a young black kid in a conservative community.

This is a factor that a lot of people are overlooking in this Tyreek deal, IMHO.

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Old 07-17-2019, 09:10 AM   #3492
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How can it simultaneously show a flimsy case AND why he would plead guilty? Don't the two statements contradict each other?
Since you obviously either have no short-term memory, or just totally missed this :

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the court transcripts and photos do two things:

1. Show that the plea deal was offered because the case was flimsy as ****. Tyreek could easily have gotten off, which is why he initially plead NOT GUILTY. But the plea deal was so good, it wasn't worth risking conviction.

2. There is very little physical evidence that the incident described by Espinal actually happened. Both on her, and in the room. Tyreek Hill is LEFT HANDED. Where are the marks on the right side of her face if he was wailing away on her?

None of this was published by local media, despite the fact they had it all. In 2016.

They were content to let the narrative that this girl's flesh was hanging off her face ride as the truth...

Makes you think...

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And those photos COULD definitely show DV...
But they DEFINITELY don't support her claims about what happened...and since she's a proven ****ing liar...just shut the **** up now.
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So ... I work with a black audio engineer from time to time. He is now 35 years old, but when he was 19, he was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana with intent to sell.

What the popo actually found was a roach, some seeds and twigs, and a set of scales in his home. He had been stopped for a traffic violation, they found the roach in the car, asked him for permission to search his apartment and he granted them permission without thinking about the scales or feeling any sense of guilt.

A few procedural steps later, he's in court for jury selection (he could not afford a private attorney and was represented by a public defender). This occurred in Shelbyville Tennessee ... a very, very conservative town. The jury pool included only 7 black persons. During voir dire, it was determined by the judge that each of those 7 people were either distant family members (3rd cousins and the like) or friends of the family. (Not a big black population in Shelbyville.) End result? Zero black jury members.

Convicted. Sentenced to 7 years. Out in 4. Probation for the remainder. Could not find a job for years because of his record.

Now, this is a very intelligent guy who actually got two degrees while incarcerated and speaks on behalf of the Department of Corrections promoting an initiative that educates prisoners. Nice dude. Utterly harmless. Entire life screwed up to this point.

The moral of the story is that a courtroom is not a comfortable or pleasant place to find yourself if you're a young black kid in a conservative community.

This is a factor that a lot of people are overlooking in this Tyreek deal, IMHO.

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How can it simultaneously show a flimsy case AND why he would plead guilty? Don't the two statements contradict each other?

And those photos COULD definitely show DV...
The flimsy case is why the plea deal was offered. And the deal was SO GOOD, he took it rather than risk conviction.

Those photos do not show DV. PARTICULARLY not the claims she made.
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