Trade Deadline

[O.city]

With their now being that extra WC spot and everyone being bunched up, there's gonna be alot of executives deluding themselves into thinking they have a shot.

Even with that said, I've never understood why more teams don't sell. Take the Raiders for instance and Josh Jacobs. He's clearly going elsewhere this offseason, so they probably think they could get a 3rd round comp pick. If the Saints beat them this weekend, why wouldn't you try to move him?

The Saints should trade anything that's not bolted down at this point, but I digress.

I know teams don't like to shit on their fanbase and sell because of tickets and blah blah blah.

Why dont' more teams sell though?

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by O.city

They have a HOF coach and a HOF QB. I expect them to win in the playoffs.

If they don't I'm assuming you'll figure that's a let down or disappointment or just look forward to the draft in KC?

That HOF coach and HOF QB have participated in 11 playoff games together. They've won 8 of those.

You think that's suddenly going to up and vanish like a fart in the wind because they didn't trade for some 'impact' D-Lineman before the deadline?

Come on, man.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They tried to make a move, man. The asking prices were just too high. What did you want them to do? Offer up two 1st's and more for Josh Allen or Brian Burns?

Were you really so eager to trade that you'd have them give up not one but possibly THREE players just to get one 2nd-tier pass rusher?

Yeah, it's one thing to second guess what ACTUALLY happened if we knew, but to just assume Verch sat on his hands or sees it as a rebuilding year, etc; with the limited knowledge we have.... JFC, this isn't Madden.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They held the mighty, unstoppable Bills to 24 points. Just ONE more successful offensive drive and they win. It's that simple.

That, or a healthy kicker.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

They'll have a puncher's chance for as long as Mahomes is here - well, for at least as long as Mahomes is here and Kelce is still the weapon he is.

Just feels like there was more that could've been done, though.

Yeah, I would have liked to see them add at least a complementary pass rusher to the fold. Someone to force Malik Herring out of the rotation.

But again, I'd rather them not roll the dice this year and avoid overpayment than jump in and do something that hurts in 2023+.

Originally Posted by O.city

When you feel like you're right there in the AFC and the SB race, woudln't that behoove you to make a move to try to get even the smallest advantage?

I don't have a problem with playing it this way, but at some point, they're gonna have to win more trophies. You can't keep burning these seasons with Andy and Pat and Kelce because of the "future" forever, right?

I don't see it as burning it. I see it as the team feeling that it IS good enough as constructed and sticking to its plan and price ranges.

Being too conservative definitely has potential pitfalls. But so does being too aggressive.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

It's possible he's a headcase. We've seen his behavior on the field. He's been a starter for a year and a half and honestly we're not losing anything with Jaylen Watson, who has upside that dwarfs Fenton.

Maybe he threw a fit. It's Tuesday, he may have been told now that he's returning from injury he's CB4.

He melted down, and we shuffled him out the door as fast as humanly possible.

I'm just writing Chiefs fan fiction at this point, but we've seen this team inexplicably cut bait with CBs before and we've never learned the truth.

But they wrecked us!!!!

[Chieftain]

I liked Eager's work with PFF and his thought process. He has tweeted often about the Chiefs as of late. Is he a Chiefs fan?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's a bit scary, but the evidence we have seems to point to them having a real blind spot on the DE/DT prospect acquisitions.

I dunno, just weird.

A small sample size yet, but they need a hit in fairly short order.

Speaks, K-Pass, Kaindoh - blech. Not to mention the Clark miss, signing Okafor and moving on from Ogbah. Their 'wins' thus far have been Wharton and Danna; Nnadi has been mostly a draw. Even fliers like Reed haven't amounted to dick.

5 years and they haven't really brought in a single meaningful player. That's starting to become more of a trend than a blip.

They gotta get a couple more right in short order. Maybe it starts with Karlaftis turning a corner.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Suh isn't going to wreck shit. He's still sitting at home for a reason.

He had only 1.5 less sacks last year than all our DTs not named Chris Jones combined. I don't see why it would be a bad idea to sign him if that's probably our best option right now on the DL.

To me, him not signing to a team so far is more likely him waiting to sign to a contender for the home stretch than teams not thinking he can play anymore.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

I liked Eager's work with PFF and his thought process. He has tweeted often about the Chiefs as of late. Is he a Chiefs fan?

yes

[O.city]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

That, or a healthy kicker.



Yeah, I would have liked to see them add at least a complementary pass rusher to the fold. Someone to force Malik Herring out of the rotation.

But again, I'd rather them not roll the dice this year and avoid overpayment than jump in and do something that hurts in 2023+.



I don't see it as burning it. I see it as the team feeling that it IS good enough as constructed and sticking to its plan and price ranges.

Being too conservative definitely has potential pitfalls. But so does being too aggressive.

It's not even really the trade deadline for me. You can't pay what was supposedly out there for the DE's. As much as I like the players, you can't do that.

But even thru the offseason, they just didn't seem to think the DL was an issue. I dunno, seems like they whiffed on it.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

A small sample size yet, but they need a hit in fairly short order.

Speaks, K-Pass, Kaindoh - blech. Not to mention the Clark miss, signing Okafor and moving on from Ogbah. Their 'wins' thus far have been Wharton and Danna; Nnadi has been mostly a draw. Even fliers like Reed haven't amounted to dick.

5 years and they haven't really brought in a single meaningful player. That's starting to become more of a trend than a blip.

They gotta get a couple more right in short order. Maybe it starts with Karlaftis turning a corner.

I'm willing to concede that I felt the same way about the corner position until they just carpet bombed it with draft picks this year. Hopefully they get someone who is a true difference maker.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by -King-

He had only 1.5 less sacks last year than all our DTs not named Chris Jones combined. I don't see why it would be a bad idea to sign him if that's probably our best option right now on the DL.

To me, him not signing to a team so far is more likely him waiting to sign to a contender for the home stretch than teams not thinking he can play anymore.

Last I read, he wanted in the neighborhood of $9M. We simply can't afford that. Now if he wants to cut that in half, it might be worth it.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I'm willing to concede that I felt the same way about the corner position until they just carpet bombed it with draft picks this year. Hopefully they get someone who is a true difference maker.

The problem with that is that you don't know what you don't know and another hole opens up somewhere.

They blasted the secondary with draft picks and some are looking good, but the DL and or Offense coudl have used some TLC with a few of the picks potentially.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Last I read, he wanted in the neighborhood of $9M. We simply can't afford that. Now if he wants to cut that in half, it might be worth it.

That was before the season. So yeah likely less now.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

A small sample size yet, but they need a hit in fairly short order.

Speaks, K-Pass, Kaindoh - blech. Not to mention the Clark miss, signing Okafor and moving on from Ogbah. Their 'wins' thus far have been Wharton and Danna; Nnadi has been mostly a draw. Even fliers like Reed haven't amounted to dick.

5 years and they haven't really brought in a single meaningful player. That's starting to become more of a trend than a blip.

They gotta get a couple more right in short order. Maybe it starts with Karlaftis turning a corner.

It's absolutely concerning, and moreover, baffling to me. When you think of what they have been able to accomplish with the back 7 on this D, it's amazing how equally "bad' they have been managing the front 4. That's got to change, and I agree, I hope it starts with #56.

[emaw1979]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

A small sample size yet, but they need a hit in fairly short order.

Speaks, K-Pass, Kaindoh - blech. Not to mention the Clark miss, signing Okafor and moving on from Ogbah. Their 'wins' thus far have been Wharton and Danna; Nnadi has been mostly a draw. Even fliers like Reed haven't amounted to dick.

5 years and they haven't really brought in a single meaningful player. That's starting to become more of a trend than a blip.

They gotta get a couple more right in short order. Maybe it starts with Karlaftis turning a corner.

I posted something similar about this and WRs before the draft which they suck at drafting as well (outside of hill who was oozing with natural talent and desire to be great).