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Old 05-26-2023, 11:03 AM  
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:03 AM   #3826
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Didn’t “seem” to generate a lot of separation?

Are you high?

Moore had a lot of analysts panting about his route running coming into the draft, his separation numbers were good last year, and you can see him on tape separating from an elite DB (Derwin James) when matched up 1x1.
He caught ~20 balls last year, and he has more fumbles lost than touchdowns.

I hope the guy works out, but I think we can pump the brakes on all that.
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:04 AM   #3827
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There are a lot of similarities between James' game and Skyy Moore's. Undersized, quickness rather than speed, good with the ball in his hands but won't run away from defenders.
James actually produced with a mediocre QB last year. I have high hopes for him.
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:10 AM   #3828
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A LOT of people sleeping on Skyy.


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I remember someone in the draft forum kept bringing up Shakir as a WR the Chiefs should target.
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:14 AM   #3829
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James actually produced with a mediocre QB last year. I have high hopes for him.
Yeah, I'm not saying these guys are bad, but I think we have a list of guys you'd think of more as slot receivers and role players behind someone else.

We're missing the guy who could be the 1/2 punch with Kelce, a Kupp-type reliable first down WR, or someone like a Brown, Jefferson, Diggs, etc who can create problems in a lot of different ways at all levels of the defense.

If Toney can stay healthy then maybe we've got a pretty good group, but he's been hurt for the majority of his 3 seasons in the league, I don't know how you can count on that.
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:14 AM   #3830
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Welp...so now we're to the "at least he went to a non-contender"/"Justyn Ross and Richie James will get the chance to develop this way"/"he was on the decline anyway" portion of these types of threads. Oh well. We're going to win one of these again someday. Until then, I guess we'll just have to keep going to AFCCG's and Super Bowls.
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:16 AM   #3831
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Welp...so now we're to the "at least he went to a non-contender"/"Justyn Ross and Richie James will get the chance to develop this way"/"he was on the decline anyway" portion of these types of threads. Oh well. We're going to win one of these again someday. Until then, I guess we'll just have to keep going to AFCCG's and Super Bowls.
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:19 AM   #3832
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Welp...so now we're to the "at least he went to a non-contender"/"Justyn Ross and Richie James will get the chance to develop this way"/"he was on the decline anyway" portion of these types of threads. Oh well. We're going to win one of these again someday. Until then, I guess we'll just have to keep going to AFCCG's and Super Bowls.
And that's a sacrifice every Chiefs' fan is willing to make.
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:26 AM   #3833
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If you think of an optimistic projection for Skyy Moore to become a big contributor, maybe the comp is Christian Kirk. Same sort of player, but in a good situation and with generally good QB play, had a big year. Hopefully things turn out more in that direction for Skyy.
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:26 AM   #3834
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:27 AM   #3835
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He caught ~20 balls last year, and he has more fumbles lost than touchdowns.

I hope the guy works out, but I think we can pump the brakes on all that.
He caught 20 balls largely because he was a rookie in Andy Reid's system behind veteran receivers, with a highly productive veteran playing the position he was best suited for (Smith-Schuster).

There's no need to "pump" the brakes on anything I said.

Multiple draft folks/scouts talked about his route-running and ability to separate quickly. (You can find this if you try)

His average separation/"open" numbers have been posted before (and have now been posted in this very thread)

And his tape from the Chargers game Smith-Schuster missed is available. You can watch it and see him beating Derwin James in key third-down spots when matched up 1x1 in man coverage.

Your take that he wasn't regarded as a good route runner and didn't "seem" to create separation was wildly off-target, and easily shown as such.
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:29 AM   #3837
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He caught ~20 balls last year, and he has more fumbles lost than touchdowns.

I hope the guy works out, but I think we can pump the brakes on all that.

Okay he doesn't return punts anymore, fumble problem solved. He had never done it before, he isn't great at it. They made Tyreek return punts his rookie year too. Others can do that better, whatever.



The real point is, Skyy Moore gets open. It was immediately obvious from his college tape and it still is. Skyy Moore will make a great slot receiver for this team. Instead of pumping the brakes, you should pump the neighbor's dog.
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Okay he doesn't return punts anymore, fumble problem solved. He had never done it before, he isn't great at it. They made Tyreek return punts his rookie year too. Others can do that better, whatever.



The real point is, Skyy Moore gets open. It was immediately obvious from his college tape and it still is. Skyy Moore will make a great slot receiver for this team. Instead of pumping the brakes, you should pump the neighbor's dog.
He's not playing against MAC teams in the NFL.

We all hope he can do it at this level. It remains unproven.
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But...he is. He is doing it. We have proof. We have a year of proof. He got open the third most of all rookies in the NFL and now he needs snaps.

What are you talking about?
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