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Old 02-10-2025, 07:31 PM   #1
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Yikes. I’m going to hope that’s a personnel issue and not a scheme issue.
JuJu, Kelce, and Hopkins are old and slow… that’s a personnel issue.

But schematically it seemed like the Andy/Nagy were giving Mahomes very few hot reads to bail him out as he was pressured… instead the receivers were almost always 10-15 yards downfield not even looking for the ball.
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Old 02-10-2025, 07:36 PM   #2
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Lack of separation outside of Worthy and sometimes Hollywood outside of schemed passes was quietly one of the biggest reasons we lost.

This is really really bad
Man, that pick at 2:00 is terrible. I just don't know wtf Mahomes saw there.
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Old 02-10-2025, 07:07 PM   #3
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Hindsight being 50/50 and all, Hopkins ended up being a complete waste of time. Dude was washed and I really wish they would've used that pick on Cam Robinson instead just for the factor of knowing whether he'd continue to be mediocre to bad here or if he had a higher ceiling so we could possibly extend him.
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Old 02-10-2025, 07:32 PM   #4
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I would get rid of Nagy and get new blood. I realize it probably doesn't matter and it is Reids baby but it is what it is.
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Old 02-10-2025, 07:37 PM   #5
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Veach previously said that the Chiefs free agency will be the draft this upcoming offseason… not sure if that changes given how desperately they need a LT.
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All the underneath routes were zone coverage. Kelce and Juju are assassins at pick plays and zone busting but that takes timing and you can't have timing when the left tackle is a severe historic liability. I see nothing wrong with the scheme.
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Old 04-28-2025, 03:34 PM   #7
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it feels like their mission with this draft was to fix all of this mess. Man I am so happy.

We didn’t have a RB on this team last year that had juice like Elijah Mitchell or Brashard Smith. Our depth WR was 50 year old Hopkins or knee replacement merchant Juju. Thank God.

If Simmons is the guy we’re sold this offense is scoring a lot of points again.
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We will never know, but that 3rd play of the game for the offense could have been a game changer. If Kelce hangs on, maybe we were coming back with a run after 2 quick 1st downs, and things may have broken open for the offense?

I've felt that way on game day. I still feel that way today.
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We will never know, but that 3rd play of the game for the offense could have been a game changer. If Kelce hangs on, maybe we were coming back with a run after 2 quick 1st downs, and things may have broken open for the offense?

I've felt that way on game day. I still feel that way today.
There were 4-5 players that would have given us a little momentum and could have changed things. But it seemed every single time we had a chance, the receivers couldn’t make the catch. It was the same way in the Bucs SB too. The inability to gain any kind of momentum killed us until the other team could put the game out of reach.
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The offense went from #1 in the NFL to mediocre since Nagy arrived.

That's not a coincidence. Watch the Bears "highlights" under Nagy and what they have Mahomes doing over here.

Same crap.
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The offense went from #1 in the NFL to mediocre since Nagy arrived.

That's not a coincidence. Watch the Bears "highlights" under Nagy and what they have Mahomes doing over here.

Same crap.
Amen. Imo, he is definately part of the problem.
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The offense went from #1 in the NFL to mediocre since Nagy arrived.

That's not a coincidence. Watch the Bears "highlights" under Nagy and what they have Mahomes doing over here.

Same crap.
Mahomes struggled massively vs cover 2 with prime Tyreek and Kelce and EB in 2021. He was “broken” per the media.

Nagy’s first year back as Mahomes QB coach in 2022 without Tyreek, Mahomes won MVP, SB MVP and had his best season as a pro.
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Mahomes struggled massively vs cover 2 with prime Tyreek and Kelce and EB in 2021. He was “broken” per the media.

Nagy’s first year back as Mahomes QB coach in 2022 without Tyreek, Mahomes won MVP, SB MVP and had his best season as a pro.
Great! That"s what he needs to be rather than OC.
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Mahomes struggled massively vs cover 2 with prime Tyreek and Kelce and EB in 2021. He was “broken” per the media.

Nagy’s first year back as Mahomes QB coach in 2022 without Tyreek, Mahomes won MVP, SB MVP and had his best season as a pro.
Yes, Nagy was the QB coach not the play caller or offensive coordinator and Mahomes led the #1 offense in the NFL with JuJu and MVS as his main WR's and Kelce with Reid/Bienemy combo.


The next year Nagy was promoted and the offense has been AIDS since.
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Yes, Nagy was the QB coach not the play caller or offensive coordinator and Mahomes led the #1 offense in the NFL with JuJu and MVS as his main WR's and Kelce with Reid/Bienemy combo.


The next year Nagy was promoted and the offense has been AIDS since.
Hmm wonder if losing your WR1 (Juju), a competent LT (Orlando), your HOF TE suddenly declining (Kelce), your 2nd best receiving threat from that MVP season becoming old and broken (McKinnon) and replacing those guys with Wanya Morris, Skyy Moore/Kadarius Toney and MEH payed a part?

It’s almost as if the talent took a complete nosedive to hell
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