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Old 04-04-2025, 11:50 AM   #1
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By all accounts, Bidunga's camp was fully aware that he was raw and needed a few years to develop. They didn't expect major minutes, especially on a roster with Dickinson. Bill actually did him a big favor by giving him minutes at the 4, which he's not at all suited for.

Why is Bill to blame?
Flory happy -> Flory transfers
Flory happy -> Flory stays

Flory unhappy-> Flory transfers
Flory unhappy-> Flory stays

Pretty simple to make a guess at the chances of each of those outcomes, and why you might want to keep him happy, considering he's the one person who could play a significant role next season... and on top of that, knowing that group of seniors wasn't going to win shit, much less make it out of the first weekend.

Don't want the players driving the bus, he could transfer anyway, etc etc... but coaches have less leverage than ever when it comes to doing things they've always done before and not adjusting on the fly.
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Old 04-04-2025, 12:52 PM   #2
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Flory happy -> Flory transfers
Flory happy -> Flory stays

Flory unhappy-> Flory transfers
Flory unhappy-> Flory stays
Except it's not that simple. Self also has to keep all of his handlers and his agent happy. And even if they're all content, the player might transfer anyway because somebody else lures him with a bigger bag, or he wants to be closer to home, etc.

Self's job is to try to win games. Not to bend over backwards to meet every demand of every recruit...who might turn around and bail anyway. Besides, he DID meet their expectations. If those expectations change retroactively, that's not Self's fault. Bidunga did nothing this season to earn significantly more minutes, especially down the stretch.

Half the players in the country are in the portal and plenty more will follow. Did all their coaches fail them?
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:03 PM   #3
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Except it's not that simple. Self also has to keep all of his handlers and his agent happy. And even if they're all content, the player might transfer anyway because somebody else lures him with a bigger bag, or he wants to be closer to home, etc.

Self's job is to try to win games. Not to bend over backwards to meet every demand of every recruit...who might turn around and bail anyway. Besides, he DID meet their expectations. If those expectations change retroactively, that's not Self's fault. Bidunga did nothing this season to earn significantly more minutes, especially down the stretch.

Half the players in the country are in the portal and plenty more will follow. Did all their coaches fail them?
I proactively covered all of the unnuanced stuff you just said in the part of my quote you deleted... and the last thing you asked is covered in the part you didn't delete.

Seems like you're trying to KCC up the thread with bullshit as opposed to having an honest discussion about it, if you can't even be bothered to read what people are typing.
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I proactively covered all of the unnuanced stuff you just said in the part of my quote you deleted... and the last thing you asked is covered in the part you didn't delete.

Seems like you're trying to KCC up the thread with bullshit as opposed to having an honest discussion about it, if you can't even be bothered to read what people are typing.
I apologize for not accepting your assumptions as fact and proceeding to shit all over a HOF coach.

You're assuming that Bidunga was angry/unhappy, and that's why he's in the portal. What makes you think this isn't just about money? You realize that every agent in the nation is encouraging his players to test the waters, right? Hence why there are 7 billion players in the portal and guys are asking for 5x their worth.

And in fact, I've heard that his relationship with the staff is okay, and this IS mostly about money. Which makes a lot more sense than the theory that he's pouting because Self gave him the role he expected, and has decided to pass up the opportunity to start and play 30+ min next year with Darryn Peterson out of spite.
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:50 PM   #5
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I apologize for not accepting your assumptions as fact and proceeding to shit all over a HOF coach.

You're assuming that Bidunga was angry/unhappy, and that's why he's in the portal. What makes you think this isn't just about money? You realize that every agent in the nation is encouraging his players to test the waters, right? Hence why there are 7 billion players in the portal and guys are asking for 5x their worth.

And in fact, I've heard that his relationship with the staff is okay, and this IS mostly about money. Which makes a lot more sense than the theory that he's pouting because Self gave him the role he expected, and has decided to pass up the opportunity to start and play 30+ min next year with Darryn Peterson out of spite.
You might be too stupid for this thread, and we literally filtered the most often used word to describe such a person to the username of another KU fan, so we don't exactly set the bar very high around here.
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You might be too stupid for this thread, and we literally filtered the most often used word to describe such a person to the username of another KU fan, so we don't exactly set the bar very high around here.


You're right about one thing...the bar isn't set very high.

"The problem with this team is the 3x All American!"

"37% three pt shooting on almost 8 attempts per game? Sounds like a KJ clone!"

And if your team is only top 20ish by every computer ranking, you definitely need to stop concerning yourself with winning games in order to appease the handlers of a player who very well might go to the highest bidder anyway.

Brilliant stuff.

The minor differences between the staff and Bidunga's handlers aren't irreconcilable. This is/was about money. Not about sticking it to ol' Bill. As you'll see when it's announced that Bidunga's returning.

Til then, keep pretending you know what you’re talking about.

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