*****The Jalen Royals Thread*****

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

This. Rice and Hollywood are W1 and W2. Worthy is the gadget Z. And Kelce and Gray are the TE1 and TE2.

Unless there is injury he won't see the field much this season.

Only a complete ****ing reerun thinks:

1. Worthy is a "gadget" WR

2. Worthy is behind Brown in the pecking order

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Only a complete ****ing reerun thinks:

1. Worthy is a "gadget" WR

2. Worthy is behind Brown in the pecking order

Brown has the more complete route tree and better hands and understanding of zone coverage. And he cam play outside too.

Brown would be the X receiver and WR1 on a handful of actual NFL teams.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

Brown has the more complete route tree and better hands and understanding of zone coverage. And he cam play outside too.

Brown would be the X receiver and WR1 on a handful of actual NFL teams.

Uhhh, no.

This is dumb.

Brown is NOT an X.

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Uhhh, no.

This is dumb.

Brown is NOT an X.

He's not, but he can actually play the X or slot. He's not just a gadget Z receiver.

This is a guy who went for 1000 yards playing primarily outside on the Ravens.

I'd be utterly shocked if Royals beats out Brown for a starting role this year. Brown would be the number 1 on some ACTUAL NFL TEAMS. Not just Utah State.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

He's not, but he can actually play the X or slot. He's not just a gadget Z receiver.

This is a guy who went for 1000 yards playing primarily outside on the Ravens.

I'd be utterly shocked if Royals beats out Brown for a starting role this year. Brown would be the number 1 on some ACTUAL NFL TEAMS. Not just Utah State.

Hardman is gone, we don't have anyone that's just a 'gadget Z' receiver.

Hollywood is many things, but physical isn't what I'd call the strength of his game, and I don't think fighting through a press corner at the line of scrimmage is really the best way to use him.

Rice or Royals either one would be better for that role.

You DO understand the X receiver is the guy that can't go in motion that is lined up ON the line of scrimmage, right?

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Hardman is gone, we don't have anyone that's just a 'gadget Z' receiver.

Hollywood is many things, but physical isn't what I'd call the strength of his game, and I don't think fighting through a press corner at the line of scrimmage is really the best way to use him.

Rice or Royals either one would be better for that role.

You DO understand the X receiver is the guy that can't go in motion that is lined up ON the line of scrimmage, right?

Hollywood was the WR1 on the literal highest scoring offense in the NFL.

I'd be utterly shocked if Royals beats him out.

[kozzman555]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

Hollywood was the WR1 on the literal highest scoring offense in the NFL.

I'd be utterly shocked if Royals beats him out.

fuzzy is just a butthurt Bills fan that wanted his team to draft Royals but is big mad they didn't. Now he's here just trolling y'all. Don't fall for the bait.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

Brown has the more complete route tree and better hands and understanding of zone coverage. And he cam play outside too.

Brown would be the X receiver and WR1 on a handful of actual NFL teams.

So you actually watched the last several weeks of the season/playoffs and came to the conclusion that Hollywood > Worthy?

Again, only a reerun could have possibly come away with this.

Rice and Worthy are 1A and 1B. Hollywood is firmly in the WR3 spot, regardless of where he lines up on the field or the routes that he runs.

This is an Andy Reid offense. All of that other stuff is irrelevant. It's about who's going to be getting the targets, and that's very obviously Worthy over Brown.

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by staylor26

So you actually watched the last several weeks of the season/playoffs and came to the conclusion that Hollywood > Worthy?

Again, only a reerun could have possibly come away with this.

Rice and Worthy are 1A and 1B. Hollywood is firmly in the WR3 spot, regardless of where he lines up on the field or the routes that he runs.

This is an Andy Reid offense. All of that other stuff is irrelevant. It's about who's going to be getting the targets, and that's very obviously Worthy over Brown.

7 Men have to line up on the of scrimmage. It's not a choice. It's a rule. You cannot be a WR1 in this league if you require motion to get open.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

7 Men have to line up on the of scrimmage. It's not a choice. It's a rule. You cannot be a WR1 in this league if you require motion to get open.

So you DIDN'T know. But now you do.

Something else you don't really seem to know-

In KC, everybody knows all of the WR positions and can line up anywhere on any given play. It's a thing.

Also-promising rookies will start with a small package of plays, and ramp up over time. This has been the way Andy gets new guys in the flow since he got here.

So no, Royals will more than likely not start in front of Hollywood. Assuming Rice is good to start the season, Royals won't 'start' at all.

But, his skill-set is most similar to Rice, although he's faster. Size-wise, he can be play 'X'. Speed-wise, he can play anywhere.

Hypothetically, of course. It's May and we have no idea how it will all shake out.

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

So you DIDN'T know. But now you do.

Something else you don't really seem to know-

In KC, everybody knows all of the WR positions and can line up anywhere on any given play. It's a thing.

Also-promising rookies will start with a small package of plays, and ramp up over time. This has been the way Andy gets new guys in the flow since he got here.

So no, Royals will more than likely not start in front of Hollywood. Assuming Rice is good to start the season, Royals won't 'start' at all.

But, his skill-set is most similar to Rice, although he's faster. Size-wise, he can be play 'X'. Speed-wise, he can play anywhere.

Hypothetically, of course. It's May and we have no idea how it will all shake out.

To play the X you need to be a very crisp route runner. Look at Davante, Jefferson, etc. You don't just blow by people like that if you're name isn't Randy Moss.

Does Royals run crisp NFL caliber routes?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

To play the X you need to be a very crisp route runner. Look at Davante, Jefferson, etc. You don't just blow by people like that if you're name isn't Randy Moss.

Does Royals run crisp NFL caliber routes?

You called Worthy a gadget Z. Does Worthy run crisp NFL caliber routes?

Yes. Yes he does.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

To play the X you need to be a very crisp route runner. Look at Davante, Jefferson, etc. You don't just blow by people like that if you're name isn't Randy Moss.

Does Royals run crisp NFL caliber routes?

Now you're showing your ignorance... or trolling when you start talking in absolutes like that.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

7 Men have to line up on the of scrimmage. It's not a choice. It's a rule. You cannot be a WR1 in this league if you require motion to get open.

I love how you think you're dropping knowledge

Tell me what Worthy's target rate was down the stretch, particularly in the playoffs/SB, and explain how where he lines up changes that at all.

I'll wait...

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I love how you think you're dropping knowledge

Tell me what Worthy's target rate was down the stretch, particularly in the playoffs/SB, and explain how where he lines up changes that at all.

I'll wait...

He didn't know. I told him, and he went and looked it up. Now he's dropping some knowledge.