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Old 09-03-2000, 08:04 PM  
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at least among ticket-purchasing fans. I agree that booing your own team is pretty lame, but when Grbac was introduced (yes, before the game had even started), he was met with about a 50/50 mix of cheers and boos.

After his last atrocious pass attempt, he was booed off the field by a chorus of boos like I've never heard before. He just stood there with his hands on his hips, staring at the crowd. Who knows what he was thinking, but his body language suggested that his spirit was broken.

Like it or not, his support is rapidly dwindling.

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Old 09-04-2000, 10:18 AM   #106
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From what I have heard, from many pros athletes themselves, when you purchase the ticket, you purchase the right to express your opinion. Whether the fans are right or not, is another matter.
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:26 AM   #107
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KCRed - You are correct, and a person who chooses not to [i]help[/i] the team will do as he chooses.
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:33 AM   #108
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Wolf - I think a more serious problem than the booing, would be if the crowd quits cheering. The 12th man at Arrowhead is awesome, and there are always going to be some displeased fans. I fear by the end of the season, a silent crowd will be more indicative of the fans opinion, than the booing.
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:38 AM   #109
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KCRed - At least that would be honorable of the people in the stands. And I agree that it is the BEST way to let the staff know your disappointment.
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Old 09-04-2000, 12:03 PM   #110
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What would happen if they introduced Carl Peterson? IMO, he is responsible for assembling the talent and hiring the head coach. He is the one that deserves the boos. Elvis is a career backup. Thats all he was before he arrived here. If San Fran couldnt develop him, why do the Chiefs think that they can? Peterson signed him and then sold him as a Super Bowl QB to the fans. Clearly, he is closer to a 4-12 QB than he is to a Super Bowl QB. You guys boo these players and coaches as if they have the smarts and talent to get the job done. None of them have succeeded in the past. Just because they work for the chiefs does not mean that they have the necessary skills and talent to take this team to the next level (a playoff appearance). It is clear that the problems are not with the personnel as much as they are with the man responsible for hiring the personnel (Peterson). I wish he would get introduce for once. The only time he ever shows his face is after a big victory.
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Old 09-04-2000, 12:12 PM   #111
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Packfan,

I hate to disagree with someone that says he knows more about football than Mike Ditka, but San Fran let go of Grbac because they couldn't afford to pay him like a starter while he was backing up Young ~ not because they didn't want him.

That kind of changes everything you're saying, doesn't it?

After all, if San Fran thought he was starting material (as you say, they have a VERY GOOD history of evaluating and developing QB talent), then maybe we should too.

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but then i forgot that you know more about football than ditka and other nfl coaches too...
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Old 09-04-2000, 12:16 PM   #112
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I have to agree with Clint... the fans have turned their play calling towards to the coaches... not the players...

They are fed up with the game plan... fed up with the repeated mistakes... Just plain fed up that the coaches don't seem to learn from the past and keep repeating the same unsuccessful formula over and over...

This is Gun's fault... and Peterson's...<BR>
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Old 09-04-2000, 12:18 PM   #113
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I mean "turned their boos toward the coaches..."

Gotta wake up earlier! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-04-2000, 12:35 PM   #114
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I was at the game yesterday and I felt most of the booing going on had to do with the coaches and their play calling.Elvis is not the only one who made mistakes...dropped passes and stupid penalties cost us a game against a really good Colts team.You have to fault everyone on this one.They played their butts off...the intensity was there..unfortunately so were the mistakes.
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Old 09-04-2000, 12:39 PM   #115
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Old 09-04-2000, 12:52 PM   #116
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What difference does it make whether or not San Fransisco could have developed Grbac into a starting quarterback? It is clear that the Chiefs don't have that ability. The guy has tons of ability, but the sad fact is when things get tough, he folds like a 10 dollar suitcase.
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Old 09-04-2000, 06:51 PM   #117
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Brock,
Please inform me how he folded yesterday?
Or for that matter last season?

Please watch the game before you make uninformed opionins.

FACT is elvis played a good game yesterday.
2Td's And 1 that should have been.
1INT, from having his arm hit.

LOTS of dropped passes.

If those passes had been caught, it would have been a different game.

Elvis has the talent, but VERY little support. Average WR's, Jury still out on Morris. POOR OC.<P>
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Old 09-04-2000, 07:42 PM   #118
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This thread is a bunch of crap. The receivers dropped 8 balls maybe 9. Alexander dropped a TD. ON that critical interception his arm got hit by cornelius which changed the pass.

Sorry anybody down on Grbac's performance from yesterday don't know jack.
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:25 PM   #119
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I'm going to have to agree with Adam Teicher on this one:

[i]Grbac, playing without the pedigree of the
Colts' Peyton Manning and the running game of Edgerrin James, had matched Manning point for point on the scoreboard.

He had watched Chiefs receivers bat down catchable balls all day, passing for two touchdowns despite the drops.[/i] [b]And then, something happened to Grbac, the same thing that always seems to happen to him in critical situations.[/b]

[i]Grbac threw a bad pass at the worst possible time, and the Colts stole away from Arrowhead Stadium with a 27-14 victory, the Chiefs' first home-opener loss in 12 seasons.

"That's one of the plays," Grbac said wistfully, "I wish I could take back."[/i] <BR>
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:39 PM   #120
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Grback didn't throw the pass uninterrupted and there is nothing he could of done but with hindsight take it back and take a sack because he would've know bennett was there.

His arm got hit clearly on all the replays why are we arguing about his performance? This is silly. The receivers were clearly sucking yesterday or does absolutely no one know anything about football including Adam Teicher.
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