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Old 09-03-2000, 08:04 PM  
Clint in Wichita Clint in Wichita is offline
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at least among ticket-purchasing fans. I agree that booing your own team is pretty lame, but when Grbac was introduced (yes, before the game had even started), he was met with about a 50/50 mix of cheers and boos.

After his last atrocious pass attempt, he was booed off the field by a chorus of boos like I've never heard before. He just stood there with his hands on his hips, staring at the crowd. Who knows what he was thinking, but his body language suggested that his spirit was broken.

Like it or not, his support is rapidly dwindling.

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Old 09-04-2000, 10:42 PM   #121
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You know what!!!!!

KC fans and media wouldn't know a good QB even if we got one. No wonder the chiefs never develop one you have WHB punks that are wet behind the ears and are always trying to cause controversy don't know what the hell their talking about. Then you have a bunch of sheep who don't know anything about football who never question the media that listen to their show and read the star.

It's the sports version of ditto heads.
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:42 PM   #122
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I agree that the interception was caused by Grbac's arm getting hit, but you have to admit, that it was the turning point of the game. After that, well, it was just more of the same old thing.

Yes we fans are tired of the lame plays and predictable up the middle three and outs. OUr special teams got plenty of practice as we punted all day.<P>
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:45 PM   #123
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Same old thing?

You win some and you lose some. That's the same old thing. Crying like a baby with a kneejerk reaction towards someone who was not the problem is clearly----the same old thing by the fair weather fans that have become known as the chief fans.
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:47 PM   #124
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Don't forget the media.....

Adam Teicher and WHB have become masters at directing the sheep of kansascity and blaming the wrong people.<P>
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:49 PM   #125
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Elvis could prove one thing to me, very easily. Show me some guts, and when the nitwit coaches send in another running play, audible into a pass. Let Gunther scream and rant, tell Gunther to kiss his *** in public. Tell Jimmy Raye he doesn't know s h i t. Probably dooms him in the NFL though, so I guess he has to play the game as told by two of the dumbest S O B coaches I have ever seen. Gunther and Jimmy Raye.
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Old 09-04-2000, 10:58 PM   #126
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Well KCred you answered your own question but you've got to figure that the organization has been loyal to him to this point and he's going to be loyal to him. I'm saying don't blame grbac. The receivers dropped to many balls, our own beloved Tony G. played like $hit. That's where the game was lost. Our D held a potent offense to 14 points.
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Old 09-04-2000, 11:03 PM   #127
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Red,

I was NOT crying like a baby towards GRbac, I admitted that his interception was not his fault. I also think that it changed the momentum of the game.

The play calling is to blame, also many on the team played like it was preseason. Dropped balls and

Williams and Glock penalties have to go for as many years as they have been in the NFL, the penalties they created Sunday, are ridiculous!!!
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Old 09-04-2000, 11:59 PM   #128
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I didn't say you did pam. You points in your most recent post I agree with.
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Old 09-05-2000, 12:14 AM   #129
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Why the love affair with Elvis? You're willing to bash the WRs, the OC, anyone but your boy Elvis.

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Old 09-05-2000, 12:28 AM   #130
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I don't know DrRed, but I can say that Elvis is an average QB and he didn't cause any great travesties until the intercepted pass and the two overthrows at the end of the game.

The rest of the time he was OK. And he only does what JR tells him. That's what bites!

I agree, though, on these items: Elvis can't read defenses and he crumbles under pressure. He will not WIN games for us. He just won't lose them either, all by himself.

He's not Elway, Tarkenton, Montana, Dawson, or Marino. He's just Elvis. And he has reached his potential... This is it...
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Old 09-05-2000, 07:47 AM   #131
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Clint - I have not read this thread, but the topic sounded pretty awful. I don't think any QB well ever develop in the Chiefs enviornment, a rookie would just get boo'd off the field like every other QB. Truly lame, and sad.
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Old 09-05-2000, 07:54 AM   #132
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Sad but true.

IMO the fans have no patience for a 30 year old "developing" QB. I don't think the booing is ALL directed at Grbac personally, but the QB position in general. The fans deserve better than this and they know it. After watching a team like Indy come in here, play poorly and still win, it's hard to swallow Grbac, DA, and RBbC as our "big 3".

It was the kind of performance that makes me want to ask for my money back! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/mad.gif[/img]

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Old 09-05-2000, 07:56 AM   #133
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Jesus Christ, what a freaking whine-fest. Make a few critical statements about Grbac and get creamed by the "faithful".

**** YOU!!!

Adam Teicher (who you so conveniently lump into the WHB category when he says something AGAINST the team) said it best.

YES, his arm was hit. [b]YES[/b] he threw the ball across the ****ing middle, and even if Bennett hadn't of hit his arm, he was going to throw the ball down the middle anyway, which is a SEVERE MENTAL MISTAKE!

Grbac did play very well until the game was on the line, and he does it every damn time.

And just so you know, I'm laying sole blame on Elvis. DA and Gonzo should be ashamed of themselves. The special teams play was, to quote David Byrne, "same as it ever was", and JIMMY RAYE IS A ****ING *** -HOLE!!!

Is that better?

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Old 09-05-2000, 07:57 AM   #134
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Morphius,

What is surprising to me is that I saw more improvement from Grbac Sunday than just about anyone else.

He spread the ball well and he was looking off receivers (he even managed a pump fake)!

His accuracy was a little off, but let's face it, it's not like he practiced all off season throwing the ball to THESE WRs. He has a history of being fairly accurate so I'm not too concerned here.

Most importantly, he ran a good two minute drill (only to have the perfect TD pass dropped).

I truely believe that some people would prefer to be negative because it is easier for them to handle the emotions.

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Old 09-05-2000, 07:59 AM   #135
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Whew, now that I've got that off my chest, I can say what I really wanted to say... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

What was disappointing was to see us actually in the game halfway through the 3rd quarter and fold.

When I said I was laying sole blame on Elvis, obviously I was being sarcastic. I am most disappointed in the fact that this was the same team I watched lose for the last 3 years. The first 2 series of the game just about made me go nuts.

That being said, the boos are absolutely inexcusable. I was clearly upset, but I would never boo my Chiefs, not Elvis, not even Jimmy Raye.

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