Do U know BTK?

[theultimatekcchiefsfan]

I saw early this morning that one of the reporters were at the police station and saw some official looking form with "Valdez = BTK" written on it and this is when the speculation clearly started.

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by theultimatekcchiefsfan

I saw early this morning that one of the reporters were at the police station and saw some official looking form with "Valdez = BTK" written on it and this is when the speculation clearly started.

Of course cops are stupid and make a lot of mistakes but this guys name isn't Valdez. It's Valadez.

[theultimatekcchiefsfan]

BTK chat room lots of stuff in here. They are claiming That Mr V may be married into BTK family and is related.

They are laso claiming that Valadez spoke about conversations with that Wichita State Proffessor. Pretty interesting in here.

http://www.catchbtk.com/discuss.html

[Abba-Dabba]

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/10327674.htm
Posted on Fri, Dec. 03, 2004
Police: Arrest not tied to BTK

Although a man's arrest was precipitated by a tip about BTK and pursued by BTK investigators, officials say it isn't related to the BTK case.

BY STAN FINGER AND TIM POTTER

The Wichita Eagle


Responding to intense local and national media attention, Wichita Police Chief Norman Williams said Thursday that the arrest of a 65-year-old man Wednesday night was not connected to the serial killer BTK.

News of the arrest, published in Thursday's Eagle -- and the speculation that followed -- attracted a steady stream of gawkers to the street next to the man's house.

"It is a travesty when you look at the impact, and you look at what has happened to a neighborhood because of the fact that people assume that the Wichita Police Department was making an arrest in regards to BTK," Williams said at a crowded news conference.

"We have not, and I repeat, we have not made an arrest in connection with BTK."

The killer, who dubbed himself BTK -- short for "bind, torture and kill" -- resurfaced in March after nearly 25 years of silence when he sent a letter to The Eagle. Police say he has killed at least eight Wichitans since 1974.

A tip to the BTK hotline led authorities to the man who lived in south Wichita, Williams told The Eagle on Thursday morning, and in the course of investigating his background they discovered outstanding warrants. When that happens, he said, authorities have no choice but to arrest the person.

The man, whom The Eagle has not identified, appeared in Wichita Municipal Court at 3 p.m. Thursday to face charges from two misdemeanor cases. One charged him with failing to appear for sentencing in a case in which he had pleaded no contest to eight housing code violations.

In the other, he was charged with trespassing in a 1995 domestic violence case. Municipal Judge Jennifer Jones reduced the man's bond from $17,500 to $6,125 and ordered him to return to court in January. The man was released from jail shortly before 5 p.m.

The man had been arrested after daylong surveillance by Wichita police, including members of the homicide squad. Police gave a sample of the man's DNA -- driven to Topeka on Wednesday night -- to the Kansas Bureay of Investigation for testing, KBI spokesman Kyle Smith said.

A KBI forensic scientist was brought in around 1 a.m. Thursday, Smith said.

"It was given a little bit higher priority than normal," he said.

There was a need to complete the test as soon as possible, Smith said, out of fairness to the man arrested because it was important to see whether he has a connection to the BTK case and because of all the media attention.

"It's a great way to eliminate suspects," he said of the testing.

Results of the DNA test had not been released Thursday night.

Wichita legal experts say that to obtain a search warrant, police would have to demonstrate to a judge that they had knowledge beyond mere suspicion that evidence of a crime probably would be found during the search.

About two dozen police officials and KBI agents entered the house around 3 p.m. on Thursday, putting on rubber gloves as they walked through the side door.

A crime scene investigation van pulled up to the house about 20 minutes later. The investigator used a drill to remove a padlocked latch on the front door.

Police detectives gathered boxes, tools and paint cans that they put back in the house.

People driving by took pictures, made phone calls and honked as others stood across the street, staring. Police officers stood in the intersection to control traffic at times.

Speculation about BTK's identity intensified earlier this week when Wichita police released several details they say BTK has claimed about his background.

Among them: that he was born in 1939 and that his father died in World War II; that his mother worked during the day near a railroad; and that he has a fascination with railroads and trains.

Police said he also claims to have served in the military -- a tidbit that made Richard Wagner drive down Thursday from Junction City when he heard an arrest had been made.

"I came down to see the house and view the scene," said Wagner, who spent 22 years in the military before retiring in January.

He hoped BTK wasn't really a veteran. "It's not a good representation for the military."

The man's neighbors said onlookers and media attention, as well as their own concerns, made Thursday an unusual day.

One woman who lives across the street said the news that no arrest was made in the BTK case made her feel better.

"I was shaking all day, but now I'm feeling calmed down," she said.

Another neighbor said she doesn't worry about BTK often, but the news that an arrest wasn't made disappointed her.

"I just wish they'd get it over with," she said. "But I know it's a hard case to solve."

Across the street, another neighbor spent the day watching television and listening to a police scanner attached to his belt. It seems like the day was full of speculation, he said.

All the commotion made him wonder what police will do if another similar suspect surfaces.

"If they do catch this guy, how are they going to handle that?" he asked.

[Abba-Dabba]

I will admit, Wichita is a kooky city. We do things here that alot of times just don't make any sense. For instance, the WPD sometimes make the Keystone cops look outstanding.

My questions are...

1. Why were BTK investigators called in on a 1995 DV warrant? Was it just because it was a BTK tip? which leads me to my next question...

2. What do they mean by, "found out in the course of investigation he was unrelated?" Did they know this before going in his house or after?

3. If they knew after, aren't they kinda pushing the blame off on the media, who really, was acting on the WPD investigation of BTK? Hell, if the WPD didn't know till after they went in his house, how can they blame the media for reporting it, they, themselves didn't even know. And if the WPD knew before going in that he was unrelated, Why do a DNA test?

4. Which brings me to this point. Why wasn't this man just DNA tested like the hundreds that have already been without the break down the door type actions, like in this case? Or, Why wasn't this man just picked up on the DV warrant, brought down to lockup. Then questioned by BTK investigators and DNA tested?

If the WPD didn't want to make it a show, they would have made sure to quietly bring this guy in. Instead they bust in the door, bring the BTK investigators in, search and CSI removes several bags from the house. Someone from the WPD had to leak to the media. It happens all the time. The Wichita Eagle knew before the submital of articles deadline(I guess you would call it) for the day which, probaly is around 10 or 11pm. Why did this guy deserve so much attention from the WPD? What tip about him made him stand out from the several other thousand tips to deserve the attention that nobody else has endured?

I think the WPD knows they fouled up. They thought they had him. They leaked it to the media because they knew the media would jump all over it. They made THE big break in the case! City, says Yippee, rejoice thy citizens, we are KING! WPD given BIG pat on back, city loves WPD again.

Instead they 'found out during the course of investigation' it seems that they may have fell on their own ass, again.