Teicher: No changes in defensive coaching staff - Page 9

tk13 · 01-18-2005, 02:28 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/10668159.htm

Vermeil: Defensive coaches staying

By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star

Despite pressure to improve a defense that finished next to last in yards allowed, Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said Monday that he will make no changes to his defensive staff.

Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. Peter Giunta and Vernon Dean coached a secondary that allowed more passing yards than any other NFL team.

Vermeil took the two weeks since the Chiefs' season-ending loss in San Diego to ponder changes. He returned to his Arrowhead Stadium office Monday, saying that while all of his assistants would be welcome to return, he also expected better results next season.

“The only way any football coach is evaluated is on how many games they won,” Vermeil said. “Since we won only seven games, everybody on this staff, including me, is evaluated as below average. An 8-8 record would have meant we were average.”

Although the Chiefs played poorly on defense since he joined the Chiefs in 2001, Vermeil has remained steadfastly loyal to his assistants. He resisted pressure from Peterson to replace coordinator Greg Robinson two years ago.

The only defensive staff changes were made last year when Vermeil accepted Robinson's resignation and linebackers coach Joe Vitt left for the Rams.

Giunta and Dean are under scrutiny after many of the defensive backs had poor seasons. The play of safeties Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods slipped noticeably. Young cornerbacks William Bartee and Julian Battle failed to develop into reliable players.

Vermeil said his coaches weren't to blame.

“Peter Giunta is no more guilty now than he was 100 percent responsible for the Super Bowl championship defense and the secondary he coached with the Rams,” Vermeil said. “They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability. Do I blame them if a guy blows a coverage or breaks down fundamentally? No.

“If I thought they were doing a poor job of that, I would handle that. But I don't think that's true.”

Vermeil last year replaced Robinson with Gunther Cunningham and Vitt with Fred Pagac, but otherwise made few changes to defensive personnel. The Chiefs were even worse defensively. They allowed 103 more points and 330 additional yards and forced 17 fewer turnovers.

The Chiefs would have a second offensive staff departure if quarterback coach Jason Verduzco departs. He is a candidate to become offensive coordinator on Robinson's staff at Syracuse, where he recently became head coach.

Tight-ends coach Keith Rowen left two weeks ago to become offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. He is replaced by Terry Shea, a former Chiefs assistant who spent one year with Chicago.

go bo · 01-18-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, this is really the only good part of the article I imagine in most people's minds...

I think it's pretty obvious what that means, hopefully they follow through. I think they will.

yeah, and you're a blind homer...

worse, you're an optimistic blind homer...

ck_IN · 01-18-2005, 12:52 PM

IMO Parcells has done a shit job coaching the Cowboys so at this point I wouldn't hang my hat on anything he does or doesn't do. He's the biggest coaching disapointment of 2004 IMO.

I wasn't commenting on his results. I was commenting on the fact that he sees a problem and is taking steps to solve it. It may turn out that he's the problem but at least he's moving to try and resolve things. DV is apparently oblivious to the problem.

**Donger** · 01-18-2005, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

The handle is "Phobia", not Donger, dude. I have no hygiene issues.

Nor do I.

go bo · 01-18-2005, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Man, I hope so. I can handle feeling like a dipshit.

yeah, it's not like you don't have lots of practice...

go bo · 01-18-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Nor do I.

what? did you make a new year's resolution to keep yourself clean this year?

go bo · 01-18-2005, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoatCheese

So if we win the Super Bowl I won't feel any different?

**Bowser** · 01-18-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260

Let's try to keep the sharp objects away from the idiot kickers, tho.

I'm sure it wasn't funny when it happened. But, damn!!

**The Bad Guy** · 01-18-2005, 01:10 PM

It should be a huge friggen red flag that Guinta has had Bartee and Battle at corner and NEITHER of them have gotten any better.

Vermeil is such a damn idiot. Martz had to drag old ass Bud Carson out of retirement to attempt to fix all of Guinta's screwups, but he helped win a SB ring so he's a god in Vermeil's eyes.

The KC media should get some balls and blast this organization at every turn. But they won't because the Chiefs run their organization like a big fish in a small pond.

**Donger** · 01-18-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by go bo

what? did you make a new year's resolution to keep yourself clean this year?

Nah. I was fooling around since the infamous (I guess) leg washing thread. IYRC, my brother had just had surgery and the doctors told him that he wouldn't be able to bend down to wash his legs, or some such sh*t.

Hence, the thread. But, no, I don't wash my legs every day. Probably every third day, on average.

htismaqe · 01-18-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The KC media should get some balls and blast this organization at every turn. But they won't because the Chiefs run their organization like a big fish in a small pond.

It's inevitable. It's just like the Packers. The only pro sports competition is the freaking Royals...

go bo · 01-18-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Q: Coach, as you retire now, for good, do you have any regrets in your five years here in KC?

A: Yes, I wish we'd gotten easier schedules.

go bo · 01-18-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Nah. I was fooling around since the infamous (I guess) leg washing thread. IYRC, my brother had just had surgery and the doctors told him that he wouldn't be able to bend down to wash his legs, or some such sh*t.

Hence, the thread. But, no, I don't wash my legs every day. Probably every third day, on average.

you know you'll never live down that leg washing thread, don't you?

**The Bad Guy** · 01-18-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's inevitable. It's just like the Packers. The only pro sports competition is the freaking Royals...

But they treat the media like scum if they say one bad thing about the Chiefs, which is why I think the media in KC is too light on the FO, Peterson and Vermeil.

Look at 810's relationship with Peterson as a prime example before Vermeil came along.

shaneo69 · 01-18-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The KC media should get some balls and blast this organization at every turn. But they won't because the Chiefs run their organization like a big fish in a small pond.

"We know from email and our surveys that readers of the official site of the Chiefs tend to be independent thinkers who resist the cynicism coming from the usual places. While they are generally disposed to display a pro-Chiefs stance, they still like to make up their minds and want clear, evidence-based articles and opinions that often times ignore what is appearing in the conventional media."

**Donger** · 01-18-2005, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by go bo

you know you'll never live down that leg washing thread, don't you?

Heh. Probably not.

01-18-2005, 02:28 AM
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1687500	Teicher: No changes in defensive coaching staff http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/10668159.htm Vermeil: Defensive coaches staying By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Despite pressure to improve a defense that finished next to last in yards allowed, Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said Monday that he will make no changes to his defensive staff. Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. Peter Giunta and Vernon Dean coached a secondary that allowed more passing yards than any other NFL team. Vermeil took the two weeks since the Chiefs' season-ending loss in San Diego to ponder changes. He returned to his Arrowhead Stadium office Monday, saying that while all of his assistants would be welcome to return, he also expected better results next season. “The only way any football coach is evaluated is on how many games they won,” Vermeil said. “Since we won only seven games, everybody on this staff, including me, is evaluated as below average. An 8-8 record would have meant we were average.” Although the Chiefs played poorly on defense since he joined the Chiefs in 2001, Vermeil has remained steadfastly loyal to his assistants. He resisted pressure from Peterson to replace coordinator Greg Robinson two years ago. The only defensive staff changes were made last year when Vermeil accepted Robinson's resignation and linebackers coach Joe Vitt left for the Rams. Giunta and Dean are under scrutiny after many of the defensive backs had poor seasons. The play of safeties Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods slipped noticeably. Young cornerbacks William Bartee and Julian Battle failed to develop into reliable players. Vermeil said his coaches weren't to blame. “Peter Giunta is no more guilty now than he was 100 percent responsible for the Super Bowl championship defense and the secondary he coached with the Rams,” Vermeil said. “They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability. Do I blame them if a guy blows a coverage or breaks down fundamentally? No. “If I thought they were doing a poor job of that, I would handle that. But I don't think that's true.” Vermeil last year replaced Robinson with Gunther Cunningham and Vitt with Fred Pagac, but otherwise made few changes to defensive personnel. The Chiefs were even worse defensively. They allowed 103 more points and 330 additional yards and forced 17 fewer turnovers. The Chiefs would have a second offensive staff departure if quarterback coach Jason Verduzco departs. He is a candidate to become offensive coordinator on Robinson's staff at Syracuse, where he recently became head coach. Tight-ends coach Keith Rowen left two weeks ago to become offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. He is replaced by Terry Shea, a former Chiefs assistant who spent one year with Chicago.
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ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	IMO Parcells has done a shit job coaching the Cowboys so at this point I wouldn't hang my hat on anything he does or doesn't do. He's the biggest coaching disapointment of 2004 IMO. I wasn't commenting on his results. I was commenting on the fact that he sees a problem and is taking steps to solve it. It may turn out that he's the problem but at least he's moving to try and resolve things. DV is apparently oblivious to the problem. __________________ As sweet as Tupelo Honey
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The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	It should be a huge friggen red flag that Guinta has had Bartee and Battle at corner and NEITHER of them have gotten any better. Vermeil is such a damn idiot. Martz had to drag old ass Bud Carson out of retirement to attempt to fix all of Guinta's screwups, but he helped win a SB ring so he's a god in Vermeil's eyes. The KC media should get some balls and blast this organization at every turn. But they won't because the Chiefs run their organization like a big fish in a small pond. __________________
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