Ea sports grabs ESPN title

[htismaqe]

I have to laugh at all the people praising ESPN while simultaneously saying Madden's AI sucks.

What do you expect out of the box? It's called sliders and they put them in the game for a reason.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What do you expect out of the box? It's called sliders and they put them in the game for a reason.

Like I've asked the many others that have asked that question before --- What kind of question is that? Out of the box, I expect a fairly realistic, very playable game. Of course everyone has a different idea of what their video game experience should be, but the default middle-of-the-road sliders should give everyone a good starting point.

Sliders are [should be] there to tweak an already fairly realistic game. Past obvious reasons for why this should be, it's really hard to not just pin down a problem, but to adjust it so it's accurate across the board. They have plenty of testers to do it, but it's always a problem. I usually have to rely on someone else spending hours adjusting sliders, because it's so tedious. Play one game against one team, adjust sliders, play a few games, play another team, adjust them again, etc.

I don't think it's asking too much.... I loved NCAA '04 out of the box (even though I ended up tweaking when I went to Heisman level), loved ESPN NHL '04 with a couple of minor tweaks... don't even remember if Madden '01 or '02 had sliders, but they were fine, IIRC. OTOH, Madden '03/04, NCAA '05, EA's NHL '04/05, --- were all completely unacceptable out of the box.



IMO.

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Man you guys clearly dont know your football games.

Madden:
Terrible Secondary play
Terrible WR play

ESPN:
Just underdeveloped.
Franchise AI sucks.

I've only been talking about those 4 things since Madden came out in '03 and ESPN came out this year

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Like I've asked the many others that have asked that question before --- What kind of question is that? Out of the box, I expect a fairly realistic, very playable game. Of course everyone has a different idea of what their video game experience should be, but the default middle-of-the-road sliders should give everyone a good starting point.

Sliders are [should be] there to tweak an already fairly realistic game. Past obvious reasons for why this should be, it's really hard to not just pin down a problem, but to adjust it so it's accurate across the board. They have plenty of testers to do it, but it's always a problem. I usually have to rely on someone else spending hours adjusting sliders, because it's so tedious. Play one game against one team, adjust sliders, play a few games, play another team, adjust them again, etc.

I don't think it's asking too much.... I loved NCAA '04 out of the box (even though I ended up tweaking when I went to Heisman level), loved ESPN NHL '04 with a couple of minor tweaks... don't even remember if Madden '01 or '02 had sliders, but they were fine, IIRC. OTOH, Madden '03/04, NCAA '05, EA's NHL '04/05, --- were all completely unacceptable out of the box.



IMO.






I've only been talking about those 4 things since Madden came out in '03 and ESPN came out this year

ESPN 2k5 wasn't any better than Madden 2005 out of the box. ESPN was FAR too easy. I think my first game was 70-0.