This mock should make some happy campers

htismaqe · 04-09-2005, 10:48 AM

I think we could trade down and still get Jackson...

CanadaKC · 04-09-2005, 11:23 AM

Carlos Rogers dropping to 29?

...not going to happen. There have been rumblings on ESPN radio that Rogers is quietly making a statement as the best CB in the draft. Pac-Man Jones is still barely rated number one...but his size is inevitably an issue with some...and Rolle and Rogers are rated dead even at 2nd overall at the CB postion according to the latest scout polls. But many NFL scouts like Rogers the best because he's the most physical and he has speed with his strength and size. Rogers could be the best CB in the draft, IMO.
He was easily the best CB a at the senior bowl...even though he was injured.

CanadaKC · 04-09-2005, 11:39 AM

Kiper's newest big board has Rogers ranked 12th overall...and Jackson must have had a stellar performance in the cone drills cause he bolted up to 21st overall.

Mr. Laz · 04-09-2005, 12:05 PM

part of me thinks that Rogers will be the best pro cornerback in this draft ... even better than Rolle.

i think jacksons stock shot up because he ran a faster 40 time than expected. When he was move to safety he got the dreaded tweener label and his stock dropped. When he ran fast people started considering him a real cornerback and his stock went back up.

keg in kc · 04-09-2005, 04:41 PM

People who talk about Jackson as an NFL free safety or as a "tweener" probably didn't see him play a whole lot (I'm referring to a lot of the draft websites and mocks I've seen, not anyone here). Michigan played him at free safety his junior season out of necessity, not because he struggled at corner (he was all american in '02); they had a hole to fill and they thought he'd be the best fit. As it turns out he didn't play the position very well. He went back to corner last season and was again an all american. I've seen him play quite a bit and think it's safe to say that corner is clearly his natural position. He just looked out of place at safety.

As for the question about his speed and cover ability, I never saw anything in any game that would make me question either one. He's best in press/man but can handle zone, he's good running with receivers, good against the run (for a corner) and, so far as I can tell watching on TV, he's intelligent in terms of running the secondary and reading offenses.

I wouldn't be upset at all if we took him at 15. I think he could probably contribute immediately as a nickel back, but with so many corners in the draft with more raw athletic ability (i.e. 40 times, etc.), I'm expecting him to drop towards the end of the round. Personally, I think he'll be a very good corner for a very long time, I think he'll play as well as or better than anyone else in the '05 class, but I'm admittedly biased as a UM fan.

04-09-2005, 10:48 AM	#1
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8149900	I think we could trade down and still get Jackson...
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04-09-2005, 11:23 AM	#2
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $5988668	Carlos Rogers dropping to 29? ...not going to happen. There have been rumblings on ESPN radio that Rogers is quietly making a statement as the best CB in the draft. Pac-Man Jones is still barely rated number one...but his size is inevitably an issue with some...and Rolle and Rogers are rated dead even at 2nd overall at the CB postion according to the latest scout polls. But many NFL scouts like Rogers the best because he's the most physical and he has speed with his strength and size. Rogers could be the best CB in the draft, IMO. He was easily the best CB a at the senior bowl...even though he was injured.
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04-09-2005, 11:39 AM	#3
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $5988668	Kiper's newest big board has Rogers ranked 12th overall...and Jackson must have had a stellar performance in the cone drills cause he bolted up to 21st overall.
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04-09-2005, 12:05 PM	#4
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	part of me thinks that Rogers will be the best pro cornerback in this draft ... even better than Rolle. i think jacksons stock shot up because he ran a faster 40 time than expected. When he was move to safety he got the dreaded tweener label and his stock dropped. When he ran fast people started considering him a real cornerback and his stock went back up. __________________
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04-09-2005, 04:41 PM	#5
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	People who talk about Jackson as an NFL free safety or as a "tweener" probably didn't see him play a whole lot (I'm referring to a lot of the draft websites and mocks I've seen, not anyone here). Michigan played him at free safety his junior season out of necessity, not because he struggled at corner (he was all american in '02); they had a hole to fill and they thought he'd be the best fit. As it turns out he didn't play the position very well. He went back to corner last season and was again an all american. I've seen him play quite a bit and think it's safe to say that corner is clearly his natural position. He just looked out of place at safety. As for the question about his speed and cover ability, I never saw anything in any game that would make me question either one. He's best in press/man but can handle zone, he's good running with receivers, good against the run (for a corner) and, so far as I can tell watching on TV, he's intelligent in terms of running the secondary and reading offenses. I wouldn't be upset at all if we took him at 15. I think he could probably contribute immediately as a nickel back, but with so many corners in the draft with more raw athletic ability (i.e. 40 times, etc.), I'm expecting him to drop towards the end of the round. Personally, I think he'll be a very good corner for a very long time, I think he'll play as well as or better than anyone else in the '05 class, but I'm admittedly biased as a UM fan.
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