New US church leader says homosexuality no sin

[DaKCMan AP]

New US church leader says homosexuality no sin

Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender.


Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year.

Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual.

"I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said.

"Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender."

Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away.

It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand.

Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo.

Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother.

Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.

"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.

"The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded."

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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I accept your apology.

Still waiting on your dissemination of indicative. Perhaps you would like to try "the" next??

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

For someone who has such endless hatred of me, you seem to spend quite a bit of time on here trying to 'educate me', going as far as dictionary.com to try and back yourself up. Is your life *that* devoid of meaning?? Aren't you supposed to be at work right now?? At least I have an excuse. I'm off for the summer and it is raining outside, but you, who has 'no desire to converse with me' continually interjects your opinions on everything that I have to say. Why don't you just electronically hate fuck me and get it over with, or sit down, and continue the blessed tour through mediocrity that your life has no doubt been so far.

Good God man, your anger issues and self-hatred....are jaw-dropping. Do you even have a sense of humor? They may be on "blue-light" special over at K-Mart.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Pick apart 453 all you want. I'm waiting.

Give it up kid, the fight was over a while ago and you lost. Now they are taking turns pissing on you while you are down.

Be the kind of man you advocate in 453: don't put up fight just walk away. Feel the silky smoothness as your vagina starts to grow.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Here's one for you, ass

Serving to indicate: symptoms indicative of anemia; an insignia indicative of high rank.
Grammar. Of, relating to, or being the mood of the verb used in ordinary objective statements.

Durr gee, what might that be pertaining to?

No, everyone picking on you would be "indicative of everyone's hatred of the ivory tower."
You would epitomize, ie, represent the epitome, of the parts of it people hate.
Did you see that little term 'adj' when you looked up 'indicative?'
There are rules about what is modified by an adjective, and what is modified by a noun.

[burt]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If kids know they are going to essentially flunk if they start a fight, you can damn sure know that they aren't going to be starting shit. Don't be naive. Furthermore, how often are kids unsupervised at school? I find it hard to believe that there isn't an authority figure within a few seconds, but maybe I am just being naive. Furthermore, if it worries you that much, teach your kid effective methods on how to block punches. Then if someone tries to punch him, he can still defend himself without harming the other person. Conflict avoided. .

Okay, I agree..I dissed you for redundancy in quoted material....I didn't diss him. And yes that is because I tend to like him and most of what he represents. i apologize.

That said...you are being naive. I am well versed in self defense...but a large part of self defense is harming an attacker. Simply blocking an attack only worked for Bruce Lee....for a while....

Oh, and the threat of flunking out will temper school violence....sure, like the death penalty tempers crime!!!!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

No, everyone picking on you would be "indicative of everyone's hatred of the ivory tower."
You would epitomize, ie, represent the epitome of the parts of it people hate.
Did you see that little term 'adj' when you looked up 'indicative?'
There are rules about what is modified by an adjective, and what is modified by a noun.

Of course, I am never, never a 'noun' (since I is not a PERSON, place or thing). Furthermore, my status as being in academia is never brought up here in the pejorative. You are trying to define a word completely outside of its context, which is a big, big no no (but I'm sure that it serves you well when you are suing someone for asbestos contamination) Get real.

[burt]

[QUOTE='Hamas' Jenkins]Since I seem to be indicative of everyone's hatred of the ivory tower, and most liberal movements stem from academia, why don't you tell me? Perhaps you could get your shriveled dick out of your Piven blow up doll long enough to type a response, no??

Although we are all quite aware that Mr. Law & Order knows what a complete sentence.



Care to revisit that one in between your viewings of everything trendy on television, ??[/QUOTE]


Maybe, just maybe, the hatred stems from the fact that you post offensive stuff.....do ya think?????

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Dale Mercer

Okay, I agree..I dissed you for redundancy in quoted material....I didn't diss him. And yes that is because I tend to like him and most of what he represents. i apologize.

That said...you are being naive. I am well versed in self defense...but a large part of self defense is harming an attacker. Simply blocking an attack only worked for Bruce Lee....for a while....

Oh, and the threat of flunking out will temper school violence....sure, like the death penalty tempers crime!!!!

Good luck trying to throw a kid out of school because he deflected an attacker's punch and tied up his arms to protect himself...of course BD wants to present the supporters of this argument as being that dumb...

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Of course, I am never, never a 'noun' (since I is not a PERSON, place or thing). Furthermore, my status as being in academia is never brought up here in the pejorative. You are trying to define a word completely outside of its context, which is a big, big no no (but I'm sure that it serves you well when you are suing someone for asbestos contamination) Get real.

Your "status in academia"?
Aren't you a TA?
LMMFAO!
When I was a freshman my AP Lit. TA used to have me over after class to get me high and suck my *&$#.

Status in academia my ass. Your insecurity makes me sad.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Good luck trying to throw a kid out of school because he deflected an attacker's punch and tied up his arms to protect himself...of course BD wants to present the supporters of this argument as being that dumb...

Good luck trying to stop me from beating your ass by tying up my arms.
It is hit or be hit boy. Your way would only get kids hurt.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

....of course BD wants to present the supporters of this argument as being that dumb...

No, I doubt it. That's not at all necessary.....

[Jilly]

I feel like I need a cigarette after reading all this.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Of course you would split hairs to this degree to try and undermine my stance rather than analyzing what I'm actually saying.

Liberal--------------------------------------Conservative/Authoritarian

Where might an anarcho-socialist go there???

Try this:
Original Forumla was the center.
True Conservatives are closer to that.
Your position requires a socialist dictatorship first which then withers away to anarchy. That's pure communism.






I did these for something else....might as well use it here.

[burt]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

For someone who has such endless hatred of me, you seem to spend quite a bit of time on here trying to 'educate me', going as far as dictionary.com to try and back yourself up. Is your life *that* devoid of meaning?? Aren't you supposed to be at work right now?? At least I have an excuse. I'm off for the summer and it is raining outside, but you, who has 'no desire to converse with me' continually interjects your opinions on everything that I have to say. Why don't you just electronically hate fuck me and get it over with, or sit down, and continue the blessed tour through mediocrity that your life has no doubt been so far.

Read the above....and just wonder why some people do not like you.....I am sure a man of you advanced intellect can understand that when a person is being offensive...it tends to make people look for reasons to disagree. Oh, and you are offensive. Think about that....and is that the way you want to be thought of??? Is that the way you want to be portrayed through this electronic media?? If it is...maybe you should consider a career change....because you'd then be too stupid to teach our nations youth.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by TitsMagee

I feel like I need a cigarette after reading all this.

Is that a 'relieve the stress' cigarette, Or a post-coital cigarette?