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**DaKCMan AP** · 06-20-2006, 10:14 AM

New US church leader says homosexuality no sin

Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender.

Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year.

Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual.

"I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said.

"Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender."

Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away.

It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand.

Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo.

Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother.

Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.

"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.

"The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded."

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vailpass · 06-22-2006, 04:12 PM

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Gomez-Garcia's friend gets 12 years in prison

A man who helped accused cop killer Raul Gomez-Garcia flee Denver was sentenced to the maximum 12 years in prison Friday as an accessory to murder.
Jaime Arana del Angel helped his friend by burying the murder weapon and leading him out of town on Interstate 70, showing him the way to Las Vegas and California.

But his assistance had "extraordinary, almost mind-boggling" repercussions, said prosecutor Bruce Levin.

It cost prosecutors the chance to try Gomez-Garcia for first-degree murder and seek the death penalty for the murder of Denver police officer Donnie Young. Ultimately Gomez-Garcia went to Mexico and couldn't be extradited until prosecutors agreed to try him on a lesser charge of second-degree murder.

"Because of this, Mr. Gomez-Garcia escapes, in my opinion, true justice," Levin said.Young's widow, Kelly Young, seconded his words.

"If he had been caught here, then definitely the death penalty would be what he deserved," Kelly Young said.

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That makes my blood boil.

Boy I hope del Angel and Gomez-Garcia get what they have coming to them to the full extent of the law.

DenverChief · 06-22-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

That makes my blood boil.

Boy I hope del Angel and Gomez-Garcia don't have any "accidents" while in general population.

Unfortunatly they will probably be hailed as heros by fellow inmates

vailpass · 06-22-2006, 04:20 PM

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Unfortunatly they will probably be hailed as heros by fellow inmates

God don't tell me that. Is there a way to let it leak that they are both NAMBLA members?

Adept Havelock · 06-22-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Your "status in academia"?
Aren't you a TA?
LMMFAO!
When I was a freshman my AP Lit. TA used to have me over after class to get me high and suck my *&$#.

Was his name Hamas too?

As far as Angel and Gomez-Garcia, I'm right there with you. Drawing and Quartering might be appropriate...for a start. Either that, or this old chestnut:

Take 'em out to a wood shack with a wood table fixed to the floor. Nail their "members" to the table. Hand them a spoon. Go outside and set the shack on fire.

Give them a choice.

If they make the wrong one, wait outside with a shotgun.

DenverChief · 06-22-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

God don't tell me that. Is there a way to let it leak that they are both NAMBLA members?

Sure the next time i'm in DSO I'll try

Hammock Parties · 06-22-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Draven, do you see your name on this list?

What difference does that make? I was making a request.

vailpass · 06-22-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Sure the next time i'm in DSO I'll try

You're a good man Charlie Brown!

BIG_DADDY · 06-22-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Sure the next time i'm in DSO I'll try

Or you could just beat the crap out of him.

vailpass · 06-22-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

Was his name Hamas too?

As far as Angel and Gomez-Garcia, I'm right there with you. Drawing and Quartering might be appropriate...for a start. Either that, or this old chestnut:

Take 'em out to a wood shack with a wood table fixed to the floor. Nail their "members" to the table. Hand them a spoon. Go outside and set the shack on fire.

Give them a choice.

If they make the wrong one, wait outside with a shotgun.

Sounds o.k. to me. The minute you let a cop killer live is the minute law and order takes a black eye.

BIG_DADDY · 06-22-2006, 04:50 PM

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Or you could just beat the crap out of him.

That is if he doesn't try and hold your arms or something.

Adept Havelock · 06-22-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Sounds o.k. to me. The minute you let a cop killer live is the minute law and order takes a black eye.

Yes indeed. I've got a few friends who are part of that thin blue line, and I'm damn glad they are there. In large part, they are the difference between civilization and the "jungle".

While some sure as hell don't deserve to wear the badge or the robe, a cop, like a judge, is in large part the law incarnate. Let a killing of one go by, and you've just moved a step closer to anarchy.

DenverChief · 06-22-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Or you could just beat the crap out of him.

taser would be more fun

vailpass · 06-22-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

That is if he doesn't try and hold your arms or something.

DenverChief · 06-22-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

Yes indeed. I've got a few friends who are part of that thin blue line, and I'm damn glad they are there. In large part, they are the difference between civilization and the "jungle".

While some sure as hell don't deserve to wear the badge or the robe, a cop, like a judge, is in large part the law incarnate. Let a killing of one go by, and you've just moved a step closer to anarchy.

vailpass · 06-22-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

Yes indeed. I've got a few friends who are part of that thin blue line, and I'm damn glad they are there. In large part, they are the difference between civilization and the "jungle".

While some sure as hell don't deserve to wear the badge or the robe, a cop, like a judge, is in large part the law incarnate. Let a killing of one go by, and you've just moved a step closer to anarchy.

Yep.

06-20-2006, 10:14 AM
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $5624952	New US church leader says homosexuality no sin New US church leader says homosexuality no sin Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender. Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year. Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual. "I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said. "Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender." Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away. It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand. Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history. The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo. Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history. The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother. Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions. "The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said. "The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded." http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060619/...HBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-
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