New US church leader says homosexuality no sin

[DaKCMan AP]

New US church leader says homosexuality no sin

Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender.


Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year.

Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual.

"I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said.

"Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender."

Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away.

It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand.

Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo.

Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother.

Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.

"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.

"The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded."

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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Your "status in academia"?
Aren't you a TA?
LMMFAO!
When I was a freshman my AP Lit. TA used to have me over after class to get me high and suck my *&$#.

Status in academia my ass. Your insecurity makes me sad.

I teach my own classes. I have no supervisors. I hand out my own grades. Laugh all you want, it's the damned truth.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Is that a 'relieve the stress' cigarette, Or a post-coital cigarette?

I believe it is a burn the eyes out of a sick fuck who keeps hitting on an electronic character cigarette

['Hamas' Jenkins]

You obviously know nothing of rather simplistic judo holds and throws as a method to which subdue an attacker.

Big Daddy--you are confusing me with who you want me to be. I own two firearms A Remington 870 Wingmaster Express with interchangeable 2 3/4" and 3" barrlels, and a Marlin 30/30. I hunted for several years during my teens enjoying some modicum of success, shooting four deer (never more than 5 points though), several rabbits, a few quails, even a fucking bat once. The point of this is that I am very well versed in firearms, and I enjoy them. But I am also aware that by owning them, I am increasing the chances that they can be used against me. I'm not a trendy Hipster coming out of Pac Sun on the West Coast arguing for gun control because I don't know anything about it, I'm someone who knows the plusses and minuses of owning a firearm. Furthermore, having lost a family member to an accidental discharge of a firearm, I am well aware of how dangerous they can be.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You obviously know nothing of rather simplistic judo holds and throws as a method to which subdue an attacker.

Big Daddy--you are confusing me with who you want me to be. I own two firearms A Remington 870 Wingmaster Express with interchangeable 2 3/4" and 3" barrlels, and a Marlin 30/30. I hunted for several years during my teens enjoying some modicum of success, shooting four deer (never more than 5 points though), several rabbits, a few quails, even a fucking bat once. The point of this is that I am very well versed in firearms, and I enjoy them. But I am also aware that by owning them, I am increasing the chances that they can be used against me. I'm not a trendy Hipster coming out of Pac Sun on the West Coast arguing for gun control because I don't know anything about it, I'm someone who knows the plusses and minuses of owning a firearm. Furthermore, having lost a family member to an accidental discharge of a firearm, I am well aware of how dangerous they can be.

Any time you want to step up to the plate and throw down for the title I'm game and I am just an old man.

Self defense is the most basic of all human rights. The fact that endorse expelling a kid for exercising that right and want to impliment a run and snitch policy is appauling.

Maybe you do know something about firearms Hamas. I may have been wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. However your stance on the subject is unbelievable to say the least as was the way you went about debating it.

Your stance on wanting morality out of schools unless it's your agenda being pushed is also way out of line. You simply can't have it both ways.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I teach my own classes. I have no supervisors. I hand out my own grades. Laugh all you want, it's the damned truth.

The fact that you are a teacher is downright scary. That's every reason anybody ever needed to support privatizing schools.

[Hammock Parties]

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by FAX

That's a pretty interesting thought, actually. Thanks.

I've looked at the stats and, so far at least, am unable to find anything that would reasonably confirm that he did, in fact, redefine the position from a performance standpoint. At first, I thought that he would have had a longer ypc average which would be reflective of greater athleticism, but that's not the case. He's only near the top in that category. Then, I looked at size in the position, but nothing stands out there either.

I hate to admit it, but I think Mr. milkman may turn out to be right about this. Unless, of course, I can construct a compelling argument around your theory.

FAX

I think the OC's had something to do with the use or utility function of the TG position.

Plus, DV's total lack of concern for the D, and willingness to innovate on a high powered O that fully utilizes a TE, and a workable athlete such as TG and bam, you have a new kind of TE.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Dale Mercer

OBTUSE!!!!!

another word people use to look superior.....

No kidding. Look what it got that guy in Shaw shank redemption.

[nychief]

Originally Posted by vailpass

What's worse is that he represents the vocal minority who get their agenda pushed through by being louder and more active.

I refuse to believe that the large majority of people subscribe to the selective moral leanings of Hammy and his kind. We need to stand up and be counted before they start sending 2nd graders home with Astroglide and AnalEase, questioning whether or not they are ghey.

wow, valipass knows a lot about anal sex lube.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Any time you want to step up to the plate and throw down for the title I'm game and I am just an old man.

Self defense is the most basic of all human rights. The fact that endorse expelling a kid for exercising that right and want to impliment a run and snitch policy is appauling.

Maybe you do know something about firearms Hamas. I may have been wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. However your stance on the subject is unbelievable to say the least as was the way you went about debating it.

Your stance on wanting morality out of schools unless it's your agenda being pushed is also way out of line. You simply can't have it both ways.



The fact that you are a teacher is downright scary. That's every reason anybody ever needed to support privatizing schools.

How exactly would one go about privatizing a public 4-year college?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

BD, there is a difference between espousing tolerance, and pushing an agenda rife with religiosity. One teaches kids to essentially hate a person who isn't like them, the other teaches them that there is nothing wrong with said party. Obviously you don't see it that way.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001

Its prety dumb how people take so much stock into what the bible says... If i wrote a book and had some stuff in it close to how the bible is, and told everybody to live by it and do everything it says, or you'll go to hell, wouldnt that be considered a cult? In my opinion, thats exactly what people are acting like towards religion and the bible... Its just a set of rules and guidelines that a group of people came up with to get their people to stop acting bad. Laws that are like duh to us, like no killing, no stealing, no cheating on your wife. There is no proof in the bible, and I'd love for anybody to show me some.

So we were primordial oose that one day evolved enough smarts, that allowed the smartest dude to exert his authority over the rest of the people by making up some laws?

I am just oose. Wow.

When I die, I am just going to be a carcass full of maggots.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001

lol, noob eh? funny how when nobody has anything to say, they call somebody a noob...

No, but we want to see if you have the stones to stay here for a couple of years and keep posting.

[Hammock Parties]

I changed my mind. This thread belongs in the romper room.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Logical

That is very easy, Switzerland meets your criteria without the use of violence.

Fortunately for them, skiing and cheese aren't critical for survival in a modern world.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

THe US Department of Justice?

If somebody takes your candy ass out one day and I see I thread on here looking for sympathy I am going to laugh my ass off. You obviously have zero ability to discuss anything objectively Mr. Pipebomb. You still have failed to address your pathetic run and snitch policy you endorsed when a student is assaulted with threat of being expelled. All you gave us was theat ridiculous school pipe bomb terrorist story about that guy you know Hamas. You continue to lose all forms of credibility on this BB. Maybe you can get Logical to help you out. He seems to be sympathetic all the lowest forms of life on this BB these days.

Dude, just put his shit on iggy, he is just a little bitch that needs his daily dose of attention.