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[C-Mac]

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5 things to keep in mind during tonight’s preseason game

DAVID EULITT | THE KANSAS CITY STAR

Are things really as bad as they looked last week?

Herm Edwards says no. After five years with the Jets, he’s discovered that there generally is no correlation between a winning preseason and a successful regular season. But Edwards understands how fans might panic after being shut out at New York, and he came close to promising that the Chiefs will look considerably better tonight. “I don’t panic,” he said. “I’ve done this for too long. If we weren’t practicing well and we weren’t doing the things that I see in practice, I’d be a little bit concerned.”

How much can Tamba Hali help?

Depends on how vanilla Edwards keeps the defense. The Chiefs played just two coverages against Houston and played one coverage 80 percent against the Giants. First-round pick Hali could finally help Kansas City put some heat on the quarterback, something that has been virtually nonexistent so far.

Will the real Chiefs offense please stand up?

After two preseason games, Edwards still hasn’t seen the high-flying offense that finished first in the NFL in 2004 and 2005. The first unit has accounted for just one touchdown, and the only thing that has really impressed Edwards was a 13-play, 71-yard touchdown drive in the first game against the Texans. With left guard Brian Waters back, and the starters playing longer, maybe things will change tonight.

Is everybody being too hard on Ryan Sims?

The former first-round draft pick had an animated conversation with Edwards this week after practice. Sims wanted to know where he stood, and he hopes it’s not with both feet pressed against the sideline. For at least two preseasons, Sims has believed that he’s ready to prove his detractors wrong. Tonight could be his first step.

Is Brodie Croyle the Chiefs’ QB of the future?

You won’t find that out tonight, but maybe the third-round pick from Alabama can do something that a backup quarterback in Kansas City hasn’t done in a while: successfully move the chains. This is Croyle’s first taste of the NFL after a shoulder injury in camp, and it will be interesting to see how he handles it.

[chrisdel]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He's simply saying picking a TE that generally goes in round 4 that has 9 TD's over the last 2 years isn't a sound strategy.

But let's not forget 7 TDs in '04 with 102 receptions. And he had 78 receptions last year for over 900 yards. Still a great TE in fantasy IMHO. Not the first or maybe even second TE to pick. But still solid.

It is just fantasy football talk, anyway. Nobody is saying TG is no good anymore. Just maybe not the #1 TE. All that being said, he'll have more TDs this year. A lot more. I hope.

[chrisdel]

First drive ate half a quarter off the clock. Excellent. D looked much better. (Still just pre-season. D in previous Vermeil years looked good at times in pre-season as well.) Not so solid inside the 10. Here's where we will miss T Rich and Roaf the most.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by chrisdel

Nobody is saying TG is no good anymore. Just maybe not the #1 TE. All that being said, he'll have more TDs this year. A lot more. I hope.

TG is no good anymore.

[chrisdel]

Originally Posted by tk13

The NFL doesn't revolve around the Kansas City Chiefs though. I never understood that argument. That doesn't mean he was a success here, but as I always say, you don't forget how to be a good coach. The guy has more success than the majority of coaches that have ever coached in this league. That's not debatable. Doesn't mean you're going to have success 100% of the time, there are competent people everywhere that fail everyday. But being self-centered doesn't mean that the world actually revolves around you.

Agree with you. But he still did nothing for the Chiefs and here's why. He was talked out of retirement by Petersen. His heart wasn't in it. I'm not saying he didn't care or didn't work hard when he was HC here, but what I am saying is that his drive here wasn't as strong as in Philly or St. Louis. He was working for Super Bowls there. He was working for a pay check and a favor to CP in KC. He brought a lot of credibility back to the Chiefs when he was here (so did Marty). But in the end, he didn't do much. I just wish that some Chiefs fans stop hating on him. He shouldn't have been hired in the first place because King Carl should have been fired after the Gunther hire. But that is a topic for another thread.

[chrisdel]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

TG is no good anymore.

Guess you just discredited my point there.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, Vermeil never accomplished anything as a coach.

Yeah, that's precisely what I said.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tk13

I wasn't debating whether he accomplished anything here. I was debating the statement saying his philosophy of longer practices/aggressive play/etc. etc. ever actually worked.

Um, you're reading something into my statement that wasn't actually there.

Vermeil's philosophy, IN KANSAS CITY, was to rack up records at all costs. And it didn't work. There were things Vermeil did here that he DID NOT do in St. Louis, and vice versa. There's a reason he won there and not here.

[greg63]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

LJ played great, but I am stoked about Tamba and BONECRUSHER!!!!!!!!!!

He too looked good; I hope this is an indication of things to come, and not just at Arrowhead.

[VonneMarie]

The game is on.