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Old 07-07-2008, 07:05 AM  
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The "Official" Cardinals Discussion Thread.
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:58 PM   #451
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Thanks, and again, I'm not trying to be a jerk or a troll...just a little friendly rivalry. Especially, now that I feel like we have a team capable of actually doing something.
Hey if the Cards can't win it this year I'd have no problem with the Brew Crew winning it all...By the way who do you think the Brewers will keep out of Sabathia, Sheets and Fielder? Aren't they all 3 free agents after this year?
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:00 PM   #452
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Thanks, and again, I'm not trying to be a jerk or a troll...just a little friendly rivalry. Especially, now that I feel like we have a team capable of actually doing something.
BTW, you were right. I am a cranky fucker early in the morning.
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Crap.

Bullpen scares me.

Listening to the commentators talk about the bullpen scares me even more.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:04 PM   #454
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Hey if the Cards can't win it this year I'd have no problem with the Brew Crew winning it all...By the way who do you think the Brewers will keep out of Sabathia, Sheets and Fielder? Aren't they all 3 free agents after this year?
Fielder hasn't been around long enough to be a FA, but I think he is arbitration eligible this year.
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Fielder hasn't been around long enough to be a FA, but I think he is arbitration eligible this year.
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Set fire to the bullpen, no one makes it out alive.

****ing ridiculous.
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Positive. In baseball you have 3 years where you basically have to take whatever the team wants to pay you, then two (maybe three) more years where you can go to arbitration, before you become an outright free agent.
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Lack of a f'n pen causes Lohse to stay out too long and lose the lead
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Set fire to the bullpen, no one makes it out alive.

****ing ridiculous.
Yep, Lohse was out of gas. But Tony's old mother hubbard in the pen, so he had no choice but to stick with him.
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Positive. In baseball you have 3 years where you basically have to take whatever the team wants to pay you, then two (maybe three) more years where you can go to arbitration, before you become an outright free agent.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Yep, Lohse was out of gas. But Tony's old mother hubbard in the pen, so he had no choice but to stick with him.
It's his own ****ing fault he can't trust the 'pen.

He pulls guys when they're pitching great, based on righty/lefty matchups, which usually ends with the next pitcher getting shelled.

Or, he sticks with guys, like Isringhausen, that haven't given ANY reason to earn that loyalty.

I've always thought TLR got a bad rap in this town, but his management of this pitching staff is making me think otherwise.
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It's his own ****ing fault he can't trust the 'pen.

He pulls guys when they're pitching great, based on righty/lefty matchups, which usually ends with the next pitcher getting shelled.

Or, he sticks with guys, like Isringhausen, that haven't given ANY reason to earn that loyalty.

I've always thought TLR got a bad rap in this town, but his management of this pitching staff is making me think otherwise.
Not a Tony fan, but it's not his fault none of these guys can pitch worth a shit.
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Not a Tony fan, but it's not his fault none of these guys can pitch worth a shit.
Isringhausen has gone out of his way to prove he can't pitch worth a shit, tey TLR keeps running him out there.

Christ, give the closer role to McClellan for a month and be done with it. Isringhausen and Franklin have proven they can't handle it, and Wainwright and Looper are to important to the rotation to move them to the pen, IMO.
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Isringhausen has gone out of his way to prove he can't pitch worth a shit, tey TLR keeps running him out there.

Christ, give the closer role to McClellan for a month and be done with it. Isringhausen and Franklin have proven they can't handle it, and Wainwright and Looper are to important to the rotation to move them to the pen, IMO.
McClellan can't handle the closer role either, he's still conditioned as a starter. Have you ever noticed he gets rocked when pitching on the second consecutive day, but does good when he has rest?
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Maybe the consecutive days theory doesn't apply...McClellan might just suck too
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