Would the Chiefs beat Texas?

[Hootie]

This should usually be an obvious answer...as Texas will probably have 10-15 players that currently play (whether they are freshmen, sophomores, juniors or seniors) drafted...so obviously KC will be the more talented team.

But with Thigpen at QB, and our coaching staff, would we be able to gameplan to beat Texas?

If so, how much do we win by?

This would be much more interesting than what we usually get on Sundays...

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You know why Mizzou didn't just have Franklin run deep every play? Because the line couldn't protect long enough and Daniel's arm wasn't strong enough to get it to him.

Texas would lay their corners literally 10 yards off the line of scrimmage on every play.

Even Tony is going to be about as fast as their safeties, and a guy like Cottam would just eat them up over the middle.

That's not to mention the fact that no one could run with Charles, and Brian Waters could cave in half their D-Line by himself.

This argument is so stupid it's just offensive.

You're getting no argument from me. I know we would win by 50, but you're explanation holds no water.
Jamarcus Russel had ALL DAY to throw to Bowe in College.
He's bigger faster, and has a stronger arm, than Thiggy and accoroding to you, he could have just thrown it up to Bowe everytime, and been successful.

Again, I'm not arguing that it would even be a contest.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You just don't understand the difference in speed and size between college and the NFL. That's not to mention execution.

They would put up a 100 every game easily. Easily.

That team I just listed?

I say if you take Waters off that team, there is no possible way they'd be as good as you're making them out to be.

I don't care how slow a defense might be...Thigpen would be what, the 10th best QB in the Big 12? Smith and Charles wouldn't be the best RB's in college football...

You can't tell me that offense listed is better than the USC offense the year Texas beat them in the National Championship game.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

God, I feel like I'm listening to ****ing Colin Cowherd.

[triple]

you should be euthanized if you believe this

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Yes, and it's not close.

Lest we forget that Pete Carrol failed miserably twice in the NFL, and even as great as those USC, or past Miami teams are, very few of those players make it in the NFL.

USC would be lucky to score 3 points against the Chiefs defense.

I'm not talking about the Chiefs defense anymore...I understand that point.

I'm talking about that offense against the Chiefs offense minus LJ/TG...

[Hootie]

This thread was intended as a bashing of Herm Edwards...

I realize the Chiefs defense would dismantle a college offense...

But is our offense really capable of hanging 100+ every week on a good college defense? How about without LJ/TG? I highly doubt it...not with our inept coaching staff and the fact Tyler Thigpen is not only the worst QB in the NFL but he'd probably be what, the 50th best in college football? Just because he has some speed and a good arm doesn't mean he'd translate to anything in college football...he played at Coastal Carolina for god's sake...he's a project player that has absolutely no business even being a project.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

That team I just listed?

I say if you take Waters off that team, there is no possible way they'd be as good as you're making them out to be.

I don't care how slow a defense might be...Thigpen would be what, the 10th best QB in the Big 12? Smith and Charles wouldn't be the best RB's in college football...

You can't tell me that offense listed is better than the USC offense the year Texas beat them in the National Championship game.

Who was their #1 Receiver: Dwayne Jarrett. What has he done so far in the NFL? Nothing.
Who was their #2 Receiver: Steve Smith: What has he done? Play a little slot.

Their offensive line had 3 NFL caliber players on it: Kalil, Rachal, and Baker, but let's also remember that none of them received any NFL coaching yet, nor have they ever lined up against someone who would command a double team on every play, let alone a line full of players who would command one on every play.

USC has better running backs, period. But they aren't going to have anywhere to run.

Leinart's receivers aren't going to have any separation. His tight ends are going to get swallowed.

Do you have any idea the kind of havoc that a D-Line of Tamba Hali, Glenn Dorsey, Tank Tyler, and Turk McBride would wreak on a college line?

It's just obnoxiously stupid.

I don't think people realize how open college receivers are. Go watch an Oklahoma game, or the Texas-Mizzou game, or USC when Leinart was there. It's not difficult to throw to a guy who is just running free--it's really not.

That's why Kliff Kingsbury, Timmy Chang, and Graham Harrell can put up 10K yards and can't even catch on to a ****ing practice squad.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

This thread was intended as a bashing of Herm Edwards...

I realize the Chiefs defense would dismantle a college offense...

But is our offense really capable of hanging 100+ every week on a good college defense? How about without LJ/TG? I highly doubt it...not with our inept coaching staff and the fact Tyler Thigpen is not only the worst QB in the NFL but he'd probably be what, the 50th best in college football? Just because he has some speed and a good arm doesn't mean he'd translate to anything in college football...he played at Coastal Carolina for god's sake...he's a project player that has absolutely no business even being a project.

You could simply run sprint right option with Thigpen every play and gain 20 yards.

You could fax the script of every play you are going to run to the defense and they would not, and could not stop them.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Who was their #1 Receiver: Dwayne Jarrett. What has he done so far in the NFL? Nothing.
Who was their #2 Receiver: Steve Smith: What has he done? Play a little slot.

Their offensive line had 3 NFL caliber players on it: Kalil, Rachal, and Baker, but let's also remember that none of them received any NFL coaching yet, nor have they ever lined up against someone who would command a double team on every play, let alone a line full of players who would command one on every play.

USC has better running backs, period. But they aren't going to have anywhere to run.

Leinart's receivers aren't going to have any separation. His tight ends are going to get swallowed.

Do you have any idea the kind of havoc that a D-Line of Tamba Hali, Glenn Dorsey, Tank Tyler, and Turk McBride would wreak on a college line?

It's just obnoxiously stupid.

I don't think people realize how open college receivers are. Go watch an Oklahoma game, or the Texas-Mizzou game, or USC when Leinart was there. It's not difficult to throw to a guy who is just running free--it's really not.

That's why Kliff Kingsbury, Timmy Chang, and Graham Harrell can put up 10K yards and can't even catch on to a ****ing practice squad.

I don't get what you're doing right now...

I just friggin' said I'm not talking about defense anymore. I understand the Chiefs defense would dominate any college offense. I get it.

I'm talking strictly offense...I've said this to you for the last 5 posts...

That USC offense had to be better than the Chiefs current offense. As of now, we have LJ/Tony Gonzalez/Bowe and Waters...everyone else is a 'never was' with little coaching as well.

And Leinart is so much better than Thigpen it is sickening. I think the Chiefs would be better from here on out with Todd friggin' Reesing at QB over Tyler Thigpen.

[4th and Long]

If it takes a hen and a half a day and a half to lay an egg and a half, how long does it take a grasshopper with one wooden leg to kick all the seeds out of a dill pickle?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Texas just gave up 31 points to a team whose lineman are 2* recruits from ****ing Brookfield and Marshall, Missouri and whose quarterback is 5'8" and can't throw a football more than 45 yards in a straight line.

Think about that.

[Hootie]

What about just the Chiefs skill players...

Thigpen
LJ
Bowe
Darling
Gonzalez

If we gave those 5 players to say, UCLA and made Herm Edwards the head coach...would that offense be totally unstoppable and make UCLA the national championship frontrunner?

Are those 5 players with Herm Edwards as coach better than what the best college team has at those positions?

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Texas just gave up 31 points to a team whose lineman are 2* recruits from ****ing Brookfield and Marshall, Missouri and whose quarterback is 5'8" and can't throw a football more than 45 yards in a straight line.

Think about that.

I actually understood what you were saying 15 posts ago...The Chiefs defense alone would probably never give up a point against a college team.

But I have my doubts that a Tyler Thigpen lead college team with Herman Edwards would be as effective as you're saying it would be.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I don't get what you're doing right now...

I just friggin' said I'm not talking about defense anymore. I understand the Chiefs defense would dominate any college offense. I get it.

I'm talking strictly offense...I've said this to you for the last 5 posts...

That USC offense had to be better than the Chiefs current offense. As of now, we have LJ/Tony Gonzalez/Bowe and Waters...everyone else is a 'never was' with little coaching as well.

And Leinart is so much better than Thigpen it is sickening. I think the Chiefs would be better from here on out with Todd friggin' Reesing at QB over Tyler Thigpen.

Branden Albert was a dominant player in college. McIntosh was all Big 12. Adrian Jones was a ****ing bookend tackle in college. Waters...we don't even need to go there. And Niswanger was a dominant center in the SEC.

Bowe was the second best receiver in all of college football his junior year.

Cottam has the same size and better speed than Chase Coffman.

Tyler Thigpen has more speed and arm strength than any of those Nebraska QBs who were racking up Heisman's and converting to safety in the NFL.

Jamaal Charles was a Freshman All American and the best RB in the Big XII last year.

Kolby Smith averaged over 6 yards a carry in college.

Darling caught 30 TD's in college and averaged 16 yards a catch.

Think about that for a second.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

What about just the Chiefs skill players...

Thigpen
LJ
Bowe
Darling
Gonzalez

If we gave those 5 players to say, UCLA and made Herm Edwards the head coach...would that offense be totally unstoppable and make UCLA the national championship frontrunner?

Are those 5 players with Herm Edwards as coach better than what the best college team has at those positions?

Yes. People don't understand how shitty college coaches are.

You know why Texas players flop so much in the NFL? Because Mack Brown can't assemble a staff and is a horrible ****ing coach.

Pete Carroll is a horrible ****ing coach.

These guys can't gameplan for shit.

College football is 95% recruiting and 5% coaching. That's why Missouri, a team with superior coaching and marginal athletes, just got destroyed by Texas.