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Old 10-26-2008, 04:32 PM  
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Nick rips Chan Gailey to pieces

Yay, Herm is blameless!

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Every single Chiefs fan in Kansas City, as well as the entire New York defense, knew what was going to happen when the Chiefs got the ball with a three-point lead with less than five minutes to go in Sunday’s game. Predictably, KC’s offense pounded the ball up the middle three times and punted.

Chan Gailey, who has done a less than stellar job of attacking opponent’s weaknesses this year, negated a solid offensive effort by going into a shell with the game on the line. Head Coach Herm Edwards should reconsider his offensive coordinator for 2009 - assuming Gailey’s back for another season.

I’ve seen all I need from Gailey to conclude that he has no feel for the ebb and flow of a football game. His failure to show confidence in his young quarterback, who practically carried an offense on his back and nearly shocked the Jets in the Meadowlands, set this team back when it appeared they should have earned a much-needed win.

Edwards should be disgusted with the lackadaisical and conservative approach from Gailey, the man he deemed worthy as Chiefs’ play-caller this season. Gailey butchered the game in every sense of the word in the fourth quarter.

Instead of running three straight times over left guard Brian Waters, he could have called a bootleg if he didn’t feel like throwing. The Chiefs, without Jamaal Charles on the field, didn’t manage a running gain over four yards all day. Despite that, they put the game in the hands of Kolby Smith with time winding down.

With a superstar like tight end Tony Gonzalez on the field and two wide receivers who stepped up (Dwayne Bowe and Mark Bradley), Gailey chose the safe path and the Chiefs lost.

It wasn’t his only mistake, as he was also conservative early in the second half, when the Chiefs had first and goal at the Jets’ 10-yard line in the third quarter with the game tied at 14. Who calls a quarterback draw on second and goal after barely missing a touchdown on the previous play?

When you’re 1-5, you don’t put the ball back into the hands of a quarterback like Brett Favre, no matter if he’s thrown three interceptions. Sunday I lost confidence in Gailey’s ability to call a complete game and no doubt there are also some players on offense scratching their heads.

Gailey should be under serious consideration to be replaced after only one season in Kansas City. He came to the Chiefs with a reputation for offensive innovation, but he’s hardly shown that this year. The Chiefs were a better team Sunday than the New York Jets, it’s just too bad the offensive coordinator didn’t believe it.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:42 PM   #61
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"Do you really not see that every OC Herm has ever had is the exact same? I wonder if its because Herm is the conservative coach?"
Yeah that was actually party of what I said, he just took out Nicks name and the bad stuff I said.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:43 PM   #62
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So how long am I on read only for?
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:45 PM   #63
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This is the most ridiculous piece of garbage I've ever read.

When 24 points isn't good enough, then you've got way too high of standards. Gailey pulled off 24 points with a 3rd string QB and a 3rd string RB. Today was the first day I saw a strong glimpse of what this offense could look like.

If you want to blame anybody, blame the swiss cheese defense that continues to give up big run plays. And blame Derrick Johnson for letting an INT and probable pick-six bounce off his chest.

Gailey is one of the last people I'd blame for losing this game.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:45 PM   #64
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This is just as stupid as the other thread. We're a bad football team. I don't think we've played particularly well or coached particularly well. But everybody's trying to pin it down to one play or one series to try and find some scapegoat to put a face on their feelings. Saying Gailey, or Herm, or even Carl should be fired for that one series is dumb.

There's no reason to be confident we would've successfully completed a pass there, ran the ball successfully there, there sure as heck isn't any reason to be confident we could've ran the last 5 minutes off the clock, and if we didn't, our special teams failed. And then if we'd given Farve anywhere from 1-5 minutes left, he probably could've taken the team down to get at least a FG. Pinning it on one thing is stupid.
Which statement is better?

"We're going to run it up the gut 3 times here with Kolby Smith, who's carried for 1ypc today"

"We're going to see if Thigpen, who's played well today, can make a couple of completions and get a few first downs"


OF COURSE neither guarantees success, but I don't understand how people couldn't pick the second one every single time.

It has nothing to do with the actual outcome, it has to do with giving the players the best chance possible to be successful. I expect incomplete passes, interceptions, dropped passes, missed tackles, stupid penalties, etc. Play calling like that at the end of the game is unacceptable.

Would we have won the game otherwise? Who knows, but we weren't going to win running it up the center's ass three times and handing the ball to Brett Favre with three minutes to go, three timeouts, needing to kick a field goal to tie.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:45 PM   #65
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So how long am I on read only for?
Why would you want to read it at all?
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:45 PM   #66
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So how long am I on read only for?
I dunno. Send a PM to Klg61.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:48 PM   #67
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Why would you want to read it at all?
I actually haven't been to the sight for probably a couple months, I just went back today to leave that comment after reading this BS article here.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:52 PM   #68
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This is the most ridiculous piece of garbage I've ever read.

When 24 points isn't good enough, then you've got way too high of standards. Gailey pulled off 24 points with a 3rd string QB and a 3rd string RB. Today was the first day I saw a strong glimpse of what this offense could look like.

If you want to blame anybody, blame the swiss cheese defense that continues to give up big run plays. And blame Derrick Johnson for letting an INT and probable pick-six bounce off his chest.

Gailey is one of the last people I'd blame for losing this game.
Prepare to get piled-on.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:55 PM   #69
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No. He wasn't as silly as you've been in saying that Herm wasn't the problem with this game.

He was.

And he'll be the guy who loses the next game as well.
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If you want to blame anybody, blame the swiss cheese defense that continues to give up big run plays. And blame Derrick Johnson for letting an INT and probable pick-six bounce off his chest.
Didn't Flowers intercept and return a pick 6 on that same drive? DJ's non-pick really lost us the game?
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Didn't Flowers intercept and return a pick 6 on that same drive? DJ's non-pick really lost us the game?
DJ's non-pick led to a TD. The point being that this loss is almost entirely on the defense.
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:01 PM   #72
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DJ's non-pick led to a TD. The point being that this loss is almost entirely on the defense.
I say this loss in on the team. Not on one side of the ball.
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:02 PM   #73
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No. He wasn't as silly as you've been in saying that Herm wasn't the problem with this game.

He was.

And he'll be the guy who loses the next game as well.
Funny, I said the exact same thing he did.

If you want to blame anybody, blame the swiss cheese defense that continues to give up big run plays. And blame Derrick Johnson for letting an INT and probable pick-six bounce off his chest.

And you can add to that the 195 yards in kick returns the ST gave up today.

There were 6 games today where a defense was asked to make a stop on a team who had a chance to win or tie the game with less than 4 minutes to play.

5 of them won the game.

I don't have to tell you who that 6th team was...
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:05 PM   #74
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Flowers pick six was a later drive than the one DJ should have had, DJ's drop led to a Jets TD. On top of him allowing Favre to score, I think hes the one who blew his assignment leading to a Washington 60 yard TD run.
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Flowers pick six was a later drive than the one DJ should have had, DJ's drop led to a Jets TD. On top of him allowing Favre to score, I think hes the one who blew his assignment leading to a Washington 60 yard TD run.
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