Shop For Free Agents: Who would You Pick Up?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I really like Bryant. It just depends on the type of HC we bring in.

I also 100% disagree you have to make a free agent the highest paid player in the league. You just have to offer him more than anyone else. Terrell Suggs is not going to become the highest paid NFL player in free agency.

It would have to be significantly more thougyh, Suggs is going to be pursued by nearly every team I'm sure so I don't think something like say 5 mill difference would make him pick a 2-14 team over a contender.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It would have to be significantly more thougyh, Suggs is going to be pursued by nearly every team I'm sure so I don't think something like say 5 mill difference would make him pick a 2-14 team over a contender.

I 100% think 5 million more is going to make him go somewhere. The players association would put a lot of pressure on him to take a deal where he got more money regardless of team record.

Money talks, bullshit walks.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I 100% think 5 million more is going to make him go somewhere. The players association would put a lot of pressure on him to take a deal where he got more money regardless of team record.

Money talks, bullshit walks.

5 million more over the total of a contract wouldn't make a difference. You are talking about probably 700 K per year. 5 mil per year would, but then you are probably paying him 15 million a year.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

5 million more over the total of a contract wouldn't make a difference. You are talking about probably 700 K per year. 5 mil per year would, but then you are probably paying him 15 million a year.

The Players Association will always push for the player to sign the richest deal he can regardless of destination. It elevates all potential franchise/transition player deals down the road.

If the Chiefs offer 5 million more for Suggs than everyone else, he would absolutely be a Kansas City Chief.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The Players Association will always push for the player to sign the richest deal he can regardless of destination. It elevates all potential franchise/transition player deals down the road.

If the Chiefs offer 5 million more for Suggs than everyone else, he would absolutely be a Kansas City Chief.

Pipe dream. Players aren't going to sign on to a situation that is a dead end. You are also forgetting that Clark Hunt has not shown any signs that he is willing to open up the check book. Minnesota paid top dollar for their FA's and are fighting to hold on to win one of the weakest divisions in football. The Jets went out and spent big money on players besides Favre and they are barely over .500 playing more than half their games against the AFC and NFC west. Washington is the biggest spender in the league and what have they got to show for it. Do Pittsburg, New England and Indianapolis go out and spend the money for the top free agents. Let the other teams go out there and tie up their money in big money guys that may not do well in their system. Bring in some guys that can get the job done and look to the draft for your superstars. Does anybody else see Terrell Suggs as a guy not asked to do anything but rush the QB in a defense that has talent around him?

[kcchiefsus]

It's not even worth arguing about. You should add talent to your roster however you can get it but some idiots just don't see it.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

It's not even worth arguing about. You should add talent to your roster however you can get it but some idiots just don't see it.

If you take that rout then you can't fill your roster with much talent since every free agent gets a lot more money than they deserve. They after your draft picks do better they will think they deserve that kind of money. There is no problem getting free agents, you just can't go for the old guys who want big contracts. The young ones with big names will go to a good team, not the Chiefs.

[kcchiefsus]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Pipe dream. Players aren't going to sign on to a situation that is a dead end. You are also forgetting that Clark Hunt has not shown any signs that he is willing to open up the check book. Minnesota paid top dollar for their FA's and are fighting to hold on to win one of the weakest divisions in football. The Jets went out and spent big money on players besides Favre and they are barely over .500 playing more than half their games against the AFC and NFC west. Washington is the biggest spender in the league and what have they got to show for it. Do Pittsburg, New England and Indianapolis go out and spend the money for the top free agents. Let the other teams go out there and tie up their money in big money guys that may not do well in their system. Bring in some guys that can get the job done and look to the draft for your superstars. Does anybody else see Terrell Suggs as a guy not asked to do anything but rush the QB in a defense that has talent around him?

Hmmm, let's take a look at some free agents New England has signed in past years:

Rodney Harrison
Adalius Thomas
Roosevelt Colvin
Mike Vrabel
Corey Dillon
And personally I would count Randy Moss as a free agent signing. Yes he was a trade but it was a one year rental and then they had to shell out the big bucks to keep him or he would have left as a free agent.

Again, if you have an opportunity to add talent through free agency, why not do it? Is it our money being spent? Nope. As long as our free agency moves don't put us in cap hell, who cares if we go out and spend it? Cap room not being used is a waste. And if a free agent signing is a bust? Not our problem, because it's not our money. Again, as long as we are not put in cap hell or spend outrageous amounts like the Raiders or Redskins I don't see why fans would be against adding talent in free agency. My personal opinion is that you add talent to your team any way possible and through any means. That includes trades, free agency, and of course the draft.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Hmmm, let's take a look at some free agents New England has signed in past years:

Rodney Harrison
Adalius Thomas
Roosevelt Colvin
Mike Vrabel
Corey Dillon
And personally I would count Randy Moss as a free agent signing. Yes he was a trade but it was a one year rental and then they had to shell out the big bucks to keep him or he would have left as a free agent.

Again, if you have an opportunity to add talent through free agency, why not do it? Is it our money being spent? Nope. As long as our free agency moves don't put us in cap hell, who cares if we go out and spend it? Cap room not being used is a waste. And if a free agent signing is a bust? Not our problem, because it's not our money. Again, as long as we are not put in cap hell or spend outrageous amounts like the Raiders or Redskins I don't see why fans would be against adding talent in free agency. My personal opinion is that you add talent to your team any way possible and through any means. That includes trades, free agency, and of course the draft.

And what did all of that get them?

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Hmmm, let's take a look at some free agents New England has signed in past years:

Rodney Harrison
Adalius Thomas
Roosevelt Colvin
Mike Vrabel
Corey Dillon
And personally I would count Randy Moss as a free agent signing. Yes he was a trade but it was a one year rental and then they had to shell out the big bucks to keep him or he would have left as a free agent.

Again, if you have an opportunity to add talent through free agency, why not do it? Is it our money being spent? Nope. As long as our free agency moves don't put us in cap hell, who cares if we go out and spend it? Cap room not being used is a waste. And if a free agent signing is a bust? Not our problem, because it's not our money. Again, as long as we are not put in cap hell or spend outrageous amounts like the Raiders or Redskins I don't see why fans would be against adding talent in free agency. My personal opinion is that you add talent to your team any way possible and through any means. That includes trades, free agency, and of course the draft.

How many of those were the top free agent for the year? Harrison had been cut by his former team. Dillon was considered at the end of his wasted career. Perhaps Colvin could be considered as such, but was injured in his first year. The Patriots didn't break the bank in FA, they signed wisely to fill needs. I am not opposed to adding free agents. I just don't think we need to believe that every guy we get is going to the Pro Bowl. We need players who will make us better. Many here are talking about getting the most expensive guys out there. They may come in with a lot of upside, but if they aren't more than a system player then they could have some huge downside.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Does anybody else see Terrell Suggs as a guy not asked to do anything but rush the QB in a defense that has talent around him?

Sure, people who watch Sportscenter.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Bring in some guys that can get the job done and look to the draft for your superstars. Does anybody else see Terrell Suggs as a guy not asked to do anything but rush the QB in a defense that has talent around him?

Suggs is a monster against the run and can drop back in coverage. He's the complete package. Six year pro that is only 26? This guy could be the foundation for our D for another 6 years.