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Old 12-30-2008, 11:51 AM   Topic Starter
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I'm Really Tired of Fair Weather Fans
I understand the Chiefs are not a good football team. But, I am so tired of all the people who post on this website claiming the Chiefs are totally void of talent. It is just a stupid, stupid comment. The Chiefs a full of young talented players. No they are not at the point where they can win consistently in the NFL, but look at what a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 year players did. They were in every single game except for a couple. With another year of two experience, a quality leader at QB, and maybe a few quality experienced FA and these guys could certainly be a very good NFL football team.

Offense:
LT Brandon Albert - Had an excellent rookie season. Could easily be a top NFL LT in the coming years.

RB Jamal Charles - had some very good moments this season. I don't believe he is an everydown RB, but he certainly could be a very good change of pass guy which every team seems to need now in the NFL.

QB Tyler Thigpen - Ok you certainly can't be totally sold on TT, but he really had a pretty season considering his experience. He has the arm, he can add the run dimension to the QB position, and I think he is a leader. Can he learn to read defenses and be more accurate with his throws? The point is he has some real talent. With only five years of QB experience in his life he has showed me something.

TE Cottham - His opportunities where limited playing behind the greatest TE of all time, but he appears to be a pretty good blocker and showed he can catch a pass or two.

WR Dwayne Bowe - Has all the talent and ability to be a Hall of Fame caliber WR. Needs to learn to be more focused and how to be a professional WR. If he does that, nobody will have a better WR in the NFL.

Defense:
CB Brandon Flowers - Had a very, very good rookie campaign at a difficult position to play with absolutely zero help from his front seven as far as QB pressure goes. This guy should be a very solid CB at worst for several years and very possibly an elite CB in the near future.

CB M. Leggett - Here is a rookie FA who made an impact. One of those guys who is a football player. He will probably never be a superstar, but he certainly looks like a guy you love to have on your team. Always around the football, very good special teams guy, he just makes plays as a role player. Great football teams have guys like Leggett.

LB Derrick Johnson - He has become a very nice LB. I don't really see him becoming a superstar NFL LB, but he can play for any NFL team.

DT Glenn Dorsey - Jury is certainly out on GD. Really did not meet expectations during his rookie campaign. But, he was not horrible by any means. DT is an very tough transition to make from college to pros. How many DTs can you think of who has made a huge impact as a rookie. Added strenght, bulk, experience, and talent on the front line around him and GD could certainly become a dominate DT.

DE Tomba Hali - He will almost certianly never be a superstar, but he is a pretty solid DE. Again you put some better talent around him and he will make a bigger impact (Remember his impact when JA was around).

S Pollard/Page - A couple of young safties who have proven they can play at a pretty high level in the NFL. Again they just need some help up front so they don't have to defend receivers for 6+ seconds every pass play.

If you put some quality NFL coaches around this group of guys, which I don't think they have had up to this point, have another good draft this year, find a couple of FA with some leadership and experience the 2009 Chiefs could be the 2008 Dolphins.

I'm not saying everyone should blindly drink the Chiefs coolaid, as a lot of things could go wrong. But don't insult them buy saying the team has no talent. Best of all we have finally purged ourselves King Carl and certainly the coaching staff is soon to follow. Things are looking up in Chiefland if you ask me.
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:53 AM   #2
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QB Tyler Thigpen - Ok you certainly can't be totally sold on TT, but he really had a pretty season considering his experience. He has the arm, he can add the run dimension to the QB position, and I think he is a leader. Can he learn to read defenses and be more accurate with his throws? The point is he has some real talent. With only five years of QB experience in his life he has showed me something.
No he doesn't. Cannot throw a deep ball for shit. Horrible.
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:54 AM   #3
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No he doesn't. Cannot throw a deep ball for shit. Horrible.
Well, he does throw the deep ball well to opposing defenses.

Doesn't that count for something?
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:54 AM   #4
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:54 AM   #5
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Anybody that is curently posting on this site after seeing their team lose 23-25 games is not a fair weathered fan.

Just because they have a different opinion from you doesn't make them less of a fan. This borders on labeling who is a "real" fan and who is not. You don't want to go down that road if you want to stick around here.
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:58 AM   #6
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Anybody that is curently posting on this site after seeing their team lose 23-25 games is not a fair weathered fan.
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big difference between fair weathered and just being a pissed off fan.
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:06 PM   #7
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big difference between fair weathered and just being a pissed off fan.
This is true too
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:58 AM   #8
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:59 AM   #9
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I thought everyone was talking more about coaching than talent. What have I missed?
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:59 AM   #10
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This is where the guys w/ thousands of posts tell you the stfu. Don't worry; if and when the Chiefs go 13-3 there will still be people who talk just as much shit as they give praise. No matter how good of a team KC has, we've all been burned soooooooo bad by how good they are during the regular season and ultimately fail in the playoffs.

Kind of a "once bitten" kind of mentality.
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:06 PM   #11
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This is where the guys w/ thousands of posts tell you the stfu. Don't worry; if and when the Chiefs go 13-3 there will still be people who talk just as much shit as they give praise. No matter how good of a team KC has, we've all been burned soooooooo bad by how good they are during the regular season and ultimately fail in the playoffs.

Kind of a "once bitten" kind of mentality.
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I understand being a pissed off fan, I'm one of those as well. But, it is primarily King Carl and the coaching philosophy which has made this team 2 and whatever.

I'm just tired of the ragging about a complete void of talent. If I was taking over a football team I would rather have the Chiefs roster over a lot of teams.....Rams, Lions, Seahawks, Buc (yes the Bucs), 49ers, Raiders, to name a few.
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:07 PM   #13
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I understand being a pissed of fan, I'm one of those as well. But, it is primarily King Carl and the coaching philosophy which has made this team 2 and whatever.

I'm just tired of the ragging about a complete void of talent. If I was taking over a football team I would rather have the Chiefs roster a lot of teams.....Rams, Lions, Seahawks, Buc (yes the Bucs), 49ers, Raiders, to name a few.
carl was here for 20 years and has only been gone 2 days

give them a second to adapt
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:21 PM   #14
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"They were in every single game except for a couple. "

Ah...No....You couldnt be more wrong.....

Never in the Oakland game in KC
Never in the Atlanta game
Never in the Carolina game
Never in the Tennessee game
Never in the Buffalo game
Never in the Cincinatti game

SIX is not a couple.....Quit listening to Herm
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"They were in every single game except for a couple. "

Ah...No....You couldnt be more wrong.....

Never in the Oakland game in KC
Never in the Atlanta game
Never in the Carolina game
Never in the Tennessee game
Never in the Buffalo game
Never in the Cincinatti game

SIX is not a couple.....Quit listening to Herm
You will be better off in the long run
Good point, I did not do the research here. I would say five, the Bengals did not exactly blow us out. We were still competitive much more than we were not.
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