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Old 01-03-2009, 07:28 PM   #1
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And this deserves a new thread why? Draft a QB at #3, yes we know we've been talking about it for about a year now. Watch out they could be inexperienced, well yeah... so could any other player we take. We've determined this a long time ago, we could get Ryan Leaf or we could get John Elway, we know this! The difference between Matt Stafford and Sam Bradford might be catostrophically different, however I'm hoping that both are viable NFL QBs.
It amazes me that people get bent out of shape because someone started a thread on a topic that may have been already discussed. My apologies for offending you.

To answer your rant, this particular angle had not been talked about. This is not about Leaf or Manning. I'm not talking about a bust (Leaf) or a guy who was awful his first year and became a Hall of Fame QB (Elway/Manning). I'm talking about the expectations of an impatient fan base.

Chiefs fans have been saying for a while that they wanted us to blow the whole thing up and start from the ground to rebuild the franchise even if it meant a horrible season. It would be good in the long run. Yet those same fans whined and cried the entire season about how we should win more games. IMPATIENT. Now if we take a QB at #3 after the 2 QB's drafted in the first round in 2008 went to the playoffs, the expectations of tis fan base will be a 10-6/11-5 season that results in a playoff appearance. My point is that is very unlikely. There is a big difference between a player's junior year and his senior year. It doesn't matter that Stafford has started a bunch of games at Georgia. More than half of those were against non-conference nobodies or teams with far less talent than the SEC elite. What's his record and performance against Florida, Alabama and LSU. Those are the teams with talent to match up with Georgia. What's Bradford's record and performance against Texas and BCS Bowl games? That's the type of game pressure he'll get for 16 weeks in the NFL.

Yes we need to take a QB at #3, but we must also be patient with his development.

Someone asked a fair question about Thigpen and why he doesn't get 3 years to develop. He should, however, the Chiefs would be foolish to count solely on him to be the answer at QB. His performance in the 3rd and 4th quarters of games leaves HUGE question marks about his ability to move the team in crunch time. His performance against the Bengals leaves HUGE question marks to his ability to be a starting NFL QB.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:48 PM   #2
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Chiefs fans have been saying for a while that they wanted us to blow the whole thing up and start from the ground to rebuild the franchise even if it meant a horrible season. It would be good in the long run. Yet those same fans whined and cried the entire season about how we should win more games. IMPATIENT
And how many times do we have to tell you that we would have accepted losing as the result of mistakes by the youg players.

This team lost games because the coaching staff failed the players.
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And how many times do we have to tell you that we would have accepted losing as the result of mistakes by the youg players.

This team lost games because the coaching staff failed the players.
I'm not sure what your point is. I'm not advocating keeping this coaching staff. I'm saying that because of the success of Ryan and Flacco and the success of the Falcons, Dolphins and Ravens the fans of the Chiefs will expect a playoff appearance next year. I'm saying because the top QBs in this draft are ALL underclassman and won't be ready to take a team to that success in their rookie year and the fans will whine and cry calling them a bust.
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I'm not sure what your point is. I'm not advocating keeping this coaching staff. I'm saying that because of the success of Ryan and Flacco and the success of the Falcons, Dolphins and Ravens the fans of the Chiefs will expect a playoff appearance next year. I'm saying because the top QBs in this draft are ALL underclassman and won't be ready to take a team to that success in their rookie year and the fans will whine and cry calling them a bust.
I addressed the specific material in your post that I quoted.
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