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Old 01-18-2009, 02:50 PM  
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What Exactly Determines a Sack?
Im having a debate with a friend and was wondering if someone could clear something up for me...preferably with a link to proof.

I always thought if a QB was tackled behind the LOS it counted as a sack no matter what. My friend says that if the QB is tackled while trying to hand the ball off its not considered a sack. Who's right?
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:45 PM   #16
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in Madden if you tackle the QB while he's handing it off, they don't count it as a sack
Oh. Well, there's my answer then. Madden rules all.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:46 PM   #17
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What if its a play action pass, if you tackle the QB before he fakes the handoff it it a sack?
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:30 PM   #18
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why are you asking Chief fans?
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:51 PM   #19
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why are you asking Chief fans?
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:29 PM   #20
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This is a sack.
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:41 PM   #21
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Thats what I said, but he swears there are exceptions. Unfortunately the rule book at NFL.com is very vague and doesnt really say.
You will not find a "sack" in the rule book, I would not think. It has nothing to do with the rules. It is a statistic.
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:48 PM   #22
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:10 PM   #23
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He also says that if the play is intended as a QB run and the QB doesnt get to the LOS its just a tackle.
That happened today on the first game, and Phil pointed out that it was not a sack because, I believe it was McNabb, was in in a deliberate rushing play.

I had never heard that one before, but I trust Phil since he played that position all those years.
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A sack is also counted if you manage to strip the ball from the QB on a pass attempt, even if you don't physically tackle him. Hali did that twice to Phil Rivers in the second Chiefs/Chargers game in '08.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:49 PM   #25
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All I know is that you CANNOT intercept a sack.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:50 PM   #27
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:30 AM   #28
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lol hes been playing to much madden dude. Ok, if the QB is tackled, or stripped of the ball behind the LOS it is a Sack. Ok so your friend says if its a running play then its not a sack if the qb is tackled. So tell him, how can they prove that the so called "running play" wasnt actually a play-action that just didnt work out? ...he wont have a smart answer if he has one at all to come back from that.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:38 AM   #29
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That happened today on the first game, and Phil pointed out that it was not a sack because, I believe it was McNabb, was in in a deliberate rushing play.

I had never heard that one before, but I trust Phil since he played that position all those years.
so how can they determine that it was a drawn up QB run and not just a blown play that the qb tries to scramble on? I dont see it being possible unless that ask the coach what play he was running, which just isnt gonna happen.
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What are these "sacks" you speak of?

If, by "sack" you mean there is a possibility to tackle the QB behind the LOS for a loss in yardage, then, someone should definitely tell the Chiefs D coaches about this!

It wold be a really great thing for our team to try in a game!
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