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Old 02-17-2009, 05:29 PM  
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Kansas City Chiefs Announce Coaching Staff Moves
Feb 17, 2009, 5:17:14 PM

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Tuesday that the club has made several additions to head coach Todd Haley’s coaching staff. The following coaches have been retained by the Chiefs: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris, Chan Gailey, Tim Krumrie, Brent Salazar and Cedric Smith. The following assistant coaches are joining the Chiefs staff:

Joel Collier – Collier owns 17 seasons of experience coaching in the professional ranks. He most recently enjoyed a three-year stint with New England (2005-07). Prior to joining the Patriots, he spent 11 seasons with Miami (’94-04). Collier served his first tour of duty with New England from ‘91-93, spending time on the coaching staff and as a pro scout. He began his NFL career as an offensive assistant with Tampa Bay (’90) after serving as a graduate assistant at Syracuse (’88-89).

Gary Gibbs – A 29-year coaching veteran, Gibbs most recently served a three-year stint as defensive coordinator with New Orleans (2006-08). He entered the NFL ranks as linebackers coach with Dallas (2002-05). Gibbs broke into the coaching profession at his alma mater, the University of Oklahoma, as a graduate assistant in ‘75 and was eventually promoted to linebackers coach (’78-80), defensive coordinator (’81-88) and head coach (’89-94) He also served as defensive coordinator at Georgia (2000) and LSU (2001).

Steve Hoffman – Hoffman owns 19 years of NFL coaching experience. He most recently spent a two-year tour with Miami as kicking coach (2008) and assistant special teams coach (2007). He served as assistant special teams coach with the Atlanta (2006) after a 16-year association with Dallas (’89-04), where he served as kicking coach (’89-98) and kicking/defensive quality control coach (’99-04). He began his coaching career at the University of Miami (’85-87).

Bill Muir – Muir is a veteran of 31 NFL seasons and owns a total of 44 seasons of coaching experience. He most recently served as the offensive coordinator/offensive line coach for Tampa Bay (2002-08). He has also enjoyed NFL coaching stops with the N.Y. Jets (’95-01), Philadelphia (’92-94), Indianapolis (’89-91), Detroit (’85-88) and New England (’82-84). He began his NFL career in the player personnel department with Tampa Bay (’78-81). He coached collegiately at SMU (’76-77), Idaho State (’72-73), Rhode Island (’70-71), Delaware Valley (’66-67) and Susquehanna (’65). The Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania native also coached professionally for Houston/Shreveport (’74-75) of the World Football League.

Clancy Pendergast – Pendergast owns 14 seasons of experience in the NFL coaching ranks. He spent the past five campaigns as a defensive coordinator with Arizona (2004-08). Prior to guiding the Cardinals defensive unit, Pendergast spent one season with Cleveland (2003) after enjoying a seven-year tenure with Dallas (’96-02). He began his NFL coaching career with Houston (’95). He began his coaching career in the collegiate ranks as a graduate assistant with Mississippi State (’91) and enjoyed stops at Southern California (’92), Oklahoma (’93-94) and Alabama-Birmingham (’95). Pendergast graduated from the University of Arizona in ‘90.

Pat Perles – Perles owns 21 years of coaching experience, including two years in the NFL. He spent the previous six seasons at North Dakota State (2003-08), including the final four campaigns as the offensive coordinator. Perles previously served as the offensive line coach at his alma mater of Michigan State (2000-02). He spent six seasons in the Canadian Football League with Hamilton (’98-99), Winnipeg (’97) and Saskatchewan (’94-96). He began his NFL coaching career with the L.A. Rams (’92-93) after working as the defensive line coach for three years with Toledo (’89-91).

Dedric Ward – Ward spent the past two seasons as a member of Arizona Cardinals offensive coaching staff along with current Chiefs head coach Todd Haley. In 2007, Ward served as a quality control coach, working intensely with the Cardinals wide receivers. In 2008, the Cedar Rapids, Iowa native entered his second season as a quality control coach, working closely with the club’s running backs. Ward began his coaching career as wide receivers coach at Missouri State University in 2006.

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:26 PM   #211
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Uh, I'm speechless.

Other than Muir and possibly the special teams coach, I don't see any upgrades on the staff. I think losing David Gibbs will hurt. And as for Krumrie, Pendergast and Gibbs, blech.

For some reason, I'm extremely concerned about the draft after today's events...

Does anyone here still think the Chiefs will win more than 5 games in 2009?
Agreed. Major credibility hit here. Still, player-personnel is a different matter. I still think it will be improved.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:26 PM   #212
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:26 PM   #213
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Great he makes way to much money for being "decent" and acting like a jackoff..

Should have never resigned him I said it then and I still stand by that.
wait he had a 4.5 YPC thats all that matters right?

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:26 PM   #214
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You think anyone who doesn't think every single player on the team is gonna be awesome is a shitty fan...

There's a difference in good fan and homer to a ridiculous level fan.
you got proof to back up that first statement?


i only think there are a handful of shitty fans.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:27 PM   #215
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so every player on the chiefs deserves to be cut?
Just about.

The problem is, there aren't enough guys available to replace them that would provide any immediate upgrades.

The Chiefs have the most talent depleted roster in the NFL.

6-26 should say it all.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:27 PM   #216
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Just about.

The problem is, there aren't enough guys available to replace them that would provide any immediate upgrades.

The Chiefs have the most talent depleted roster in the NFL.

6-26 should say it all.
I still think they can challenge for the division next season.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:27 PM   #217
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Just about.

The problem is, there aren't enough guys available to replace them that would provide any immediate upgrades.

The Chiefs have the most talent depleted roster in the NFL.

6-26 should say it all.
That sums it up.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:28 PM   #218
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Just about.

The problem is, there aren't enough guys available to replace them that would provide any immediate upgrades.

The Chiefs have the most talent depleted roster in the NFL.

6-26 should say it all.
dane , everyone knows that with a competent HC we should have won several more games this year. and lots of experts have said that our team doesnt look too bad(and no i dont believe herm is an expert)
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:29 PM   #219
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hell OTW just told me last week that lj had a decent year. we had an effective run game he said
Not this shit again...

I said that LJ had his 3rd best YPC average of his career, and that he would have has a decent season had they used him. Giving a guy with a 4.5 average 3-4 carries in the 2nd half of games you're LEADING is not very smart.

4.5 a carry is a pretty solid average.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:30 PM   #220
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Fans generally would do just that. That is why they are called "fanatics" of the team. Most people who are fanatical about something don't sit around and bitch about that thing all the time.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:30 PM   #221
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Not this shit again...

I said that LJ had his 3rd best YPC average of his career, and that he would have has a decent season had they used him. Giving a guy with a 4.5 average 3-4 carries in the 2nd half of games you're LEADING is not very smart.

4.5 a carry is a pretty solid average.
Jason really should go to WPI he'd fit in well.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:30 PM   #222
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Somehow this got entered way back in the thread. Interesting quirk. Let me re-post it:

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Start with the Bills...

Bills sack numbers:

2004: 45
2005: 38
2006: 40
2007: 26
2008: 24


YPC (AGAINST):

2004: 3.6
2005: 4.5
2006: 4.7
2007: 4.4
2008: 4.3

It's pretty clear that Krumrie wasn't the 'problem' with that Buffalo line. So, what significant move happened between 2004 and 2005, when the numbers for the run defense jumped up and have never recovered?

Pat Williams went to Minnesota.

Shockingly, we also see that the drop in the sack production happened after Krumrie was gone completely from the team and Schobel's play went into decline, from 14 sacks to 6 sacks to just 1 sack and 5 games this past season.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:31 PM   #223
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Not this shit again...

I said that LJ had his 3rd best YPC average of his career, and that he would have has a decent season had they used him. Giving a guy with a 4.5 average 3-4 carries in the 2nd half of games you're LEADING is not very smart.

4.5 a carry is a pretty solid average.
you DID say our run game was effective right?
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Jason really should go to WPI he'd fit in well.
I'm just glad I'm 2nd on his stalking list.

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:32 PM   #225
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