Larry Johnson loses Grievance

[Frankie]

Per profootballtalk.com

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...teed-salaries/

Larry Johnson Loses Grievance On Future Guaranteed Salaries
Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2009, 1:11 p.m. EDT

The good news for NFL players coming out of last week’s combined Plaxico Burress/Larry Johnson grievance is that the forfeiture of signing bonus money has been significantly limited.

The bad news for NFL players is that Special Master Richard Burbank upheld player contract language invalidating future guaranteed base salaries.

Per a league source, Johnson’s grievance failed as to the question of whether the Chiefs are permitted to erase $3.5 million in guaranteed base salary due in 2009 and $250,000 in guaranteed base salary due in 2010 based on Johnson’s one-game suspension in 2008 for violation of the personal conduct policy.

With the future guaranteed payments now off the books, the Chiefs are expected to cut or trade Johnson.

Meanwhile, we’re told that Johnson’s grievance prevailed as to the partial forfeiture of his signing bonus allocation applicable to 2008, for the same reasons that the Burress grievance prevailed on that point — according to Burbank, suspensions don’t trigger a forfeiture of signing bonus money.


(Sorry if repost.)

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

I can't believe the number of people that think LJ has virtually no trade value. I'de guess these are the same people that said Tynes, Sims, Hall, and Green have no value a few years ago as well. If the franchise doesn't get a 3rd AT LEAST I'de be suprised.

Because no team is going to give that much up for a player they know is going to be cut anyway. The Chiefs have been given a gift and every team knows this.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Hootie

Man, this is total bullshit.

I work in that industry and that's not even that bad...if you're expecting 25% tips from anyone and ignore people who tip less, you're an idiot.

Of course I give the same service to the people who don't tip at all...a lot of people who don't tip properly just don't know, they aren't doing it to be dicks...as long as the people are nice people, I don't give a shit...a lot of people need that $10 a whole lot more than me...

and $10 on $85 (and I assume the $85 is after tax) is pretty standard...because technically the 15% is on the subtotal...

A lot of people double the tax and that's how they leave their tip...

whatever back at you, when it's a full bar, busy as shit 11pm on a friday night, and the little bitches that always order the carrot cake tini and give you exact change in quarters, nickels and dimes; do not get the same attention as the 28 year old drinking chivas on the rocks and tips 1-2 dollars everytime he orders.

[acasas4]

I don't care where he goes as long as he doesn't stay here.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

awesome

take that quitter's money

I don't understand this. He is not a quitter. He ran amazingly for us last year after he was suspended. He showed up to VOLUNTARY workouts. Must be a quitter. What a bunch of ****ing bullshit.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'll tell them it everytime if you can't find a RB your organization is completely ****ing inept.

And things have changed over say the past 10 years, finding a RB is easy now.

Finding a serviceable Runningback is fairly easy to do in today's NFL.
Finding an elite back isn't quite as easy.
There are maybe only 10 of them league-wide.

I believe Johnson can still be an elite back in the right situation.
And hopefully that's what we're building this off-season.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Explain to me what team is going to trade for an aging attitude problem running back when they can just draft one who's younger and cheaper without the attitude..

RB is a dime a dozen position.

I agree. But I don't think we should get rid of him. We have the cap room, put him to use. We can always dump him next year. I never understood why teams pay so much for RB's. The Donkos showed year in and year out, it's not the RB that's the important part of the puzzle.

[wild1]

he's as good as gone. they were silent and waiting for all this to play out.

if you think LJ had a bad attitude, was disliked by teammates, and was a locker room cancer before, I'll bet it doesn't improve now that the team has won back all this guaranteed money.

Gretz's conclusion is wrong though. The team doesn't necessarily want to release him by sundown if that is the plan.

The Chiefs should, and i think they will, attempt to dangle him for whatever some sucker might give. maybe we can get a 4th or 5th round pick.

In any case, it's extremely doubtful he will play a down for this team again, which is a step in the right direction.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Finding a serviceable Runningback is fairly easy to do in today's NFL.
Finding an elite back isn't quite as easy.
There are maybe only 10 of them league-wide.

I believe Johnson can still be an elite back in the right situation.
And hopefully that's what we're building this off-season.

I think he's still great, but his shittiness at the pass really hurts his value. Guys like Stephen Jackson and LT are so much better because of their added value as a receiver (obviously when they're not injured).

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

Tell that to Chief fans prior to Priest Holmes. Dime a dozen my ass....

Please see the Donks for further evidence.

[Crush]

Herm better watch his back when Larry hits the unemployment line.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by wild1

he's as good as gone. they were silent and waiting for all this to play out.

if you think LJ had a bad attitude, was disliked by teammates, and was a locker room cancer before, I'll bet it doesn't improve now that the team has won back all this guaranteed money.

Gretz's conclusion is wrong though. The team doesn't necessarily want to release him by sundown if that is the plan.

The Chiefs should, and i think they will, attempt to dangle him for whatever some sucker might give. maybe we can get a 4th or 5th round pick.

In any case, it's extremely doubtful he will play a down for this team again, which is a step in the right direction.

ATTENTION EVERYONE: This is a team sport. Primadonnas are no longer wanted at the new Arrowhead. You either play as a team or GTFO.

[Crush]

I will say this as well. Tony better and stop his self-absorbed BS or he will also find himself on the cutting block.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by EyePod

I think he's still great, but his shittiness at the pass really hurts his value. Guys like Stephen Jackson and LT are so much better because of their added value as a receiver (obviously when they're not injured).

I think far too much is made of his ineffectiveness as a pass-catcher.
I don't buy it.

He has a career yard per catch average of well over 9.

He hasn't been asked to do that as much as Holmes was.
When he has been called on he's been effective there.

Certainly he doesn't block for shit though.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Crush

I will say this as well. Tony better and stop his self-absorbed BS or he will also find himself on the cutting block.

Yeah, we'll teach those self-serving bastards by robbing an already volatile offense of more weapons.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Micjones

I think far too much is made of his ineffectiveness as a pass-catcher.
I don't buy it.

He has a career yard per catch average of well over 9.

He hasn't been asked to do that as much as Holmes was.
When he has been called on he's been effective there.

Certainly he doesn't block for shit though.

That's the thing, mic.

When he DOES catch the ball, he's effective.

But I'd love to see the number of drops he's had.