Cassel or Sanchez?

[KCBOSS1]

I realize that we are where we are, but the more I see about Sanchez, the more I'm afraid that a few years down the road, we may look back and realize that we passed up on the franchise guy that we've been looking for. I know that Cassel played ok last year, but is he a franchise guy? ...likely not. Thoughts?

[luv]

Originally Posted by rad

Yes, they did. And we're talking about Gochiefs here. He has no honor.

And that's why DCS is back? People have insulted people family members, said hurtful things, and all sorts of stuff on here. You guys focus on Claythan because he's Claythan. You know the kind of harrassment I've received from Redrum? So many people here seem to love him, so what he does to me is overlooked. I put him on ignore, and life is much better. I'm surprised no one has thought of doing that with Claythan.

[CrazyHorse]

Originally Posted by luv

Have you ever talked to him outside of football forums?

I know he has a history, and I know he was an asshole earlier. I'm not defending what he said to you at all. How fair is it to hold something against him that happened over a year ago, though?

I doubt he lasts the month he says he's going to be gone for, but I do know he feels bad.

I agree with you to an extent. But I dont have the burden of holding it against him for a year. He continues to show a lack of growth. Yesterday is a good example. He's willing to sell out over nothing. If he really was interested in his own self respect he would seek out that poster and give him back his 50 bucks. I mean it's 50 measly dollars. But his integrity continues to be worth less than 50 bucks. Who am I to place more value on Clayton than he himself does?

Dont misunderstand my position on this. I dont require his self banning. I didn't ask for it. In fact, looking at his reaction in whole, it looks more like an attempt to save face than a gesture of apology.

The whole thing is water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned. To me, it's just another poor decision in a long list of poor decisions he's made in the time I have observed him on here.

Whats important is not my opinion, but his opinion of himself. Thats where he's lacking. It's unfortunate when the people around you expect more from you than you do. If he changes that, then I will be happy for him. Until then, I have no issue looking him in the eye and telling him his behavior is unacceptable.

You should stop making excuses for him. It wont help. It might make you feel compassionate. But it only feeds the problem.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by luv

Permanent IP ban? We don't even do that to people who physically threaten to hurt someone. The dude's given himself a month ban from posting due to feeling like shit. We should see if he honors it.

yeah so he can do what he has always done? use a dupe acct??? yeah. i think the rules say you cant talk shit in a prayer thread yet he can come out and know about the illness and use that in an argument about football??? how can you even come here and defend him (do you realize that you are the only one???) and he had a chance to make good(apologize) yet still used that to be an asshole

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

You should stop making excuses for him. It wont help. It might make you feel compassionate. But it only feeds the problem.

THIS

[luv]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

I agree with you to an extent. But I dont have the burden of holding it against him for a year. He continues to show a lack of growth. Today is a good example. He's willing to sell out over nothing. If he really was interested in his own self respect he would seek out that poster and give him back his 50 bucks. I mean it's 50 measly dollars. But his integrity continues to be worth less than 50 bucks. Who am I to place more value on Clayton than he himself does?

Dont misunderstand my position on this. I dont require his self banning. I didn't ask for it. In fact, looking at his reaction in whole, it looks more like an attempt to save face than a gesture of apology.

The whole thing is water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned. To me, it's just another poor decision in a long list of poor decisions he's made in the time I have observed him on here.

Whats important is not my opinion, but his opinion of himself. Thats where he's lacking. It's unfortunate when the people around you expect more from you than you do. If he changes that, then I will be happy for him. Until then, I have no issue looking him in the eye and telling him his behavior is uinacceptable.

You should stop making excuses for him. It wont help. It might make you feel compassionate. But it only feeds the problem.

$50, to me, isn't measley. That's a utility bill. I see your point, though, and I'm going to stay out of it from now on. Everyone on here hates him, so I'll end up being guilty by association.

You can see his self banning however you want. He asked me if he was an asshole, and I told him yes.

[rad]

Originally Posted by luv

And that's why DCS is back? People have insulted people family members, said hurtful things, and all sorts of stuff on here. You guys focus on Claythan because he's Claythan. You know the kind of harrassment I've received from Redrum? So many people here seem to love him, so what he does to me is overlooked. I put him on ignore, and life is much better. I'm surprised no one has thought of doing that with Claythan.

I don't know...all I know is DCS threatened Iowanian, he brought it to everyones attention, and Dole banned him, then he came back as RoR. I believe if he ****s up again he's done for good. GC has a rap sheet longer than donkey-dong, and he won't change. That was a ****ed up thing he said, I don't care what anyone says.

And if redrum said some heinous shit to you, did you report it? If you didn't, then you can't complain. If you did, then that's ****ed up.

[luv]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

yeah so he can do what he has always done? use a dupe acct??? yeah. i think the rules say you cant talk shit in a prayer thread yet he can come out and know about the illness and use that in an argument about football??? how can you even come here and defend him (do you realize that you are the only one???) and he had a chance to make good(apologize) yet still used that to be an asshole

I've been neg repped by people for prayer threads. I just think a permanent IP ban is a little much. Like I said, I'm out of it. Done.

[luv]

Originally Posted by rad

If you didn't, then you can't complain. If you did, then that's ****ed up.

I did, several times. People thought I was whining and giving him more attention than he deserved.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by rad

I don't know...all I know is DCS threatened Iowanian, he brought it to everyones attention, and Dole banned him, then he came back as RoR. I believe if he ****s up again he's done for good. GC has a rap sheet longer than donkey-dong, and he won't change. That was a ****ed up thing he said, I don't care what anyone says.

And if redrum said some heinous shit to you, did you report it? If you didn't, then you can't complain. If you did, then that's ****ed up.

Dude you got no idea about the crap GoChiefs has pulled over the years.

[CrazyHorse]

Originally Posted by luv

$50, to me, isn't measley. That's a utility bill. I see your point, though, and I'm going to stay out of it from now on. Everyone on here hates him, so I'll end up being guilty by association.

You can see his self banning however you want. He asked me if he was an asshole, and I told him yes.

If his self banning was because he felt bad, why does he ban himself and then ask someone else of he was in the wrong? He's just trying to save face.

If you had to sell your self respect for $50, would you do it?

Besides, mom pays all the utilities.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by luv

I did, several times. People thought I was whining and giving him more attention than he deserved.

I think the problem here is you're whining and giving him more attention than he deserves.

[rad]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Dude you got no idea about the crap GoChiefs has pulled over the years.

I know some of it....I've only been here since '06.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by luv

$50, to me, isn't measley. That's a utility bill. I see your point, though, and I'm going to stay out of it from now on. Everyone on here hates him, so I'll end up being guilty by association.

You can see his self banning however you want. He asked me if he was an asshole, and I told him yes.

please carry the message to Mr. Wendler that he is not wanted here. His crap of years past has been tolerated. This event should not. He crosses the line a lot. Then he says he is sorry. He has apologized and it is up to crazy if he accepts it. Even if it is accepted, that does not mean there is no penalty. A self imposed penalty of a month (that he probably won't honor since he has none) doesn't count. If I was Mod, he would be banned for good.

[luv]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

please carry the message to Mr. Wendler that he is not wanted here. His crap of years past has been tolerated. This event should not. He crosses the line a lot. Then he says he is sorry. He has apologized and it is up to crazy if he accepts it. Even if it is accepted, that does not mean there is no penalty. A self imposed penalty of a month (that he probably won't honor since he has none) doesn't count. If I was Mod, he would be banned for good.

You just told him yourself. He's still reading, but not posting.

If you guys want to get under his skin, put him back in the red. He did mention that no one had neg repped him for this thread. He deserves at least that.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by rad

I know some of it....I've only been here since '06.

Some of the stuff he's been banned for in the past make Marlboro Chief look like a saint.


He has an obsession with this place. I suspect it's probably the closest thing to friends the meat peaker has.