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Old 07-07-2009, 12:47 PM   #1
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He hasn't been tested in this year's tour at all. Until the mountains, no one, including him, knows if he can be competitive. He could still lose the race by 10 minutes.
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:50 PM   #2
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He hasn't been tested in this year's tour at all. Until the mountains, no one, including him, knows if he can be competitive. He could still lose the race by 10 minutes.
Hey brother, I'm trying to live in the moment. Don't rain on the parade.
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:58 PM   #3
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Hey brother, I'm trying to live in the moment. Don't rain on the parade.
I've followed cycling since the days of Greg Lemond, so I've seen this play out before. The race will be determined in the mountains and the long individual time trials. We haven't had any of those yet. So we shouldn't read anything into these early results.

Consider Miguel Indurain, who won the tour 5 straight times from '91 - '95. In '96 he was in contention until he was dramatically dropped on a mountain stage by the winner Riis (later found to have doped). He ended up finishing 11th, 14 minutes off the lead. He was 32.

Age hits everyone in cycling. Winning at 37 would be a fantastic achievement, but the real race for yellow hasn't even started yet.
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:02 PM   #4
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I've followed cycling since the days of Greg Lemond, so I've seen this play out before. The race will be determined in the mountains and the long individual time trials. We haven't had any of those yet. So we shouldn't read anything into these early results.

Consider Miguel Indurain, who won the tour 5 straight times from '91 - '95. In '96 he was in contention until he was dramatically dropped on a mountain stage by the winner Riis (later found to have doped). He ended up finishing 11th, 14 minutes off the lead. He was 32.

Age hits everyone in cycling. Winning at 37 would be a fantastic achievement, but the real race for yellow hasn't even started yet.
Ok, you obviously know more about cycling than I do. But do you really need to spoil my ignorance with facts? Doesn't that violate some sort of board tenet?
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Ok, you obviously know more about cycling than I do. But do you really need to spoil my ignorance with facts? Doesn't that violate some sort of board tenet?
Spoiling your ignorance with facts is my whole reason for being here.
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Spoiling your ignorance with facts is my whole reason for being here.
Your raison d'etre, if you will.
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Ok, you obviously know more about cycling than I do. But do you really need to spoil my ignorance with facts? Doesn't that violate some sort of board tenet?
Actually, It is a fact that Lance use to dominate the mountain stages and come from up to 10 minutes behind to slaughter the competition in the mountain stages by double digit minute wins. Even if there is a drop off, he will still be competitive in the mountains. I remember seeing something about his lung capacity being greater than anyone on the planet and he does not get as winded and short breathed in the higher altitudes like a "normal" person. That is a genetic trait that should still be an advantage even though he is older.....Unless he is up to 2 packs a day.
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He hasn't been tested in this year's tour at all. Until the mountains, no one, including him, knows if he can be competitive. He could still lose the race by 10 minutes.
yep. if he has it in the mountains (where he always put the race away), it's bye-bye to the competition.
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