Todd Haley is a MF'in prick

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think he's average. For every time that he makes "a play", he misses the next (i.e., the Jets game).

He's not a game changer and he's not someone you game plan around. He's a average linebacker on a very bad defense.

I'm not advocating that the Chiefs dump him, I just don't think he's "special".

But you agree your original point - that the Chiefs have no young linebackers - was wrong?

That's all we're getting at here.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

But you agree your original point - that the Chiefs have no young linebackers - was wrong?

That's all we're getting at here.

I guess if you want to consider a 5th year linebacker "young", so be it.

He's certainly younger than a 13th or 14th year linebacker.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I guess if you want to consider a 5th year linebacker "young", so be it.

He's certainly younger than a 13th or 14th year linebacker.

Now we're moving the goalposts.

Whatever guys. When the Chiefs are good again on defense, Derrick Johnson will be a big part of it. He's part of the solution, not part of the problem.

PS - Derrick Johnson had the HIGHEST stop rate of any Chiefs linebacker last year. He was in the top 40 against the run and the top 30 against the pass (not even Ray Lewis could say that).

That definitely makes him above average in terms of starting linebackers (3 per team x 32 = 96 - and I should really throw in the 3-4 teams but I didn't) .