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View Poll Results: Who is the most villainous of this final pair?
Timothy McVeigh 49 60.49%
Jim Jones 28 34.57%
I can't decide. They both seem worthy. 4 4.94%
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:49 PM  
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America's Greatest Villains: The Championship
You've worked long and hard for this, waited for a long time. You thought, you voted, you made jokes about horrific murders. And now, we have the championship vote.

I bring to you the two greatest villains in American history. When the vote ends, you shall bring to me the winner.
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:31 PM   #31
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regardless of the methods, philosophies -- all else equal 276 innocent children (I will even leave out the adults - and assume that they would have killed children at some point anyway) compared to 168 total. I am no math genius, but like Brady > Croyle, 276 > 168 . Jones is worse. Give me one solid reason why McVeigh is worse. Because it was a strike directly against the govt? Because it was on American soil? Because the dead and injured were not otherwise involved? Because he used a bomb instead of poison? Dead is Dead. 276 > 168 Jones > McVeigh (greater than as in a greater villain)
See you're making an assumption that the numbers is what determines evil. Maybe in your mind it does, not in mine.

I stated my reasons, and stick by them. Not going to keep restating the same argument over & over.
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:40 PM   #32
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I think what really convinces me that Jones is the more evil is this. McVeigh murdered anonymously, Jones killed or convinced people he knew, and who believed he was acting in their best interest to kill themselves.
McVeigh considered himself as at war and attacking an enemy. Jones looked people in the eye and ordered them to die for him.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:55 PM   #33
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I think what really convinces me that Jones is the more evil is this. McVeigh murdered anonymously, Jones killed or convinced people he knew, and who believed he was acting in their best interest to kill themselves.
McVeigh considered himself as at war and attacking an enemy. Jones looked people in the eye and ordered them to die for him.
Excellent points!
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:56 PM   #34
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See you're making an assumption that the numbers is what determines evil. Maybe in your mind it does, not in mine.

I stated my reasons, and stick by them. Not going to keep restating the same argument over & over.
Guess we will have to agree to disagree. Even though I am right and you are wrong.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:39 PM   #35
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Plus, there's Sasquatch. He kills people and he's stinky. I really think we should start over.

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McVeigh's on the same level a Obama Bin Laden.
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Okay, I'm calling the race. The most villainous villain in the history of America is Mr. Timothy McVeigh, a Taurus.

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