Chiefs Expect to be disappointed because there will be no talent on this team in the future - Page 2

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 04:15 PM

Im no psychic, and neither do I have a crystal ball in front of me to predict the future. I make my statements clearly based in relation to how this dismal franchise operates. I hate to sound doom and gloom but it is leading towards that because of our football reality.

I don't care if we hired Scott Pioli and hired a coach from the Parcell's tree. This means absolutely nothing. when you really get down to the main core of things, these guys will have no value on this franchise because they ain't the main guys behind the curtain. They're not in full control of football operations, they're not ultimately responsible for calling the shots nor pay the bills. They're just puppets obeying what their master wants from them.

Seriously though, when you get down to it we have a sh*tty owner. Yeah Scott Pioli is who the fans wanted and Clark satisfied our desire in that regard. He comes from New England therefore we should all be excited because he comes from a winner and knows how to put championship teams together right? Im not gonna buy into this. If you really payed close attention the operations around 1 Arrowhead drive haven't changed. The Chiefs are still the same old Chiefs. They operate in the same manner and fashion just like when Herm and Carl were here. Just different men this time around.

Seriously, it shouldn't take a ****n rocket scientist to figure this out. We're being deceived into thinking this team is gonna turn it around and build a winner. we tune in and watch the games every Sunday, and why do we cheer? Because we want good things to happen. We want to win for **** sakes. That's why every fan watches sports and if you for one minute think that you can dodge your way around that, you're only fooling yourself.

I honestly believe these guys are no different then salesmen trying to sell themselves to make you convinced why you should buy their product. Seriously, Im tired of this ****n sh*t!! When Herm was here, they signed these ****n castoffs from other teams, and as fans were lead into believing that what they were doing was right. How many times do you recall Herm say the best teams on paper don't win? As a result, they went out and signed trash...It is evident when you see them sign guys like Alphonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, an old Donnie Edwards, Adrian Jones...And these guys are players other teams didn't even consider keeping.

Then, this time around, new regime, BUT, now were being told the team with the best players don't win. you have to have the "RIGHT" 53 players?! Well, **** off! This is clearly a ploy. Its a total cover up for an owner who is ****n cheap and doesn't wish to spend the money. What's gonna be the excuse? Clark isn't spending the money because he is devoting it towards stadium renovations. Gimme a break. If we take a close look at the off-season we signed 2nd and 3rd tier players who aren't gonna make a difference or impact your team in any sort of way. And it's the same sh*t they sign "old" guys or injury riddled players who clearly aren't what they used to be.

You can't take other teams scraps and expect to build a good team? That is my point. The saying is true, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t. There is no excuse for this bullsh*t that is going on. None. They've clearly had opportunties to upgrade the talent on the roster and what did they do? They were there usual passive selves. They waited waited and signed scraps, while the good talent was there they didn't cash in on those opportunities. No excuses when you're 30 someodd million under the cap.

I think it's important to "read between the lines". Pioli or no Pioli, Peterson or no Peterson the fact is Chief fans are getting ripped off. And I anticipate they will not win any time soon nor in the future. the reason is simple, the operations haven't changed at all. you have no talent, can you win? Absolutely not. And it's a shame because the fans of Kansas City love their football, while Clark doesn't relate to your passion nor has any regards towards it whatsoever.

**Bane** · 09-28-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

The Ghosts of Lombardi, Bill Walsh and Papa Bear Halas combined into one super soul couldnt do shit with this team.

Its sad to say but I believe that!
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**The Bad Guy** · 09-28-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

We're led into believing this team is gonna turn it around. The way they sell themselves to the fans leading them into believing that what they are doing is "the right way" when clearly its not. it just leads to the same old, losses. As a fan you expect to see good things , you're hoping that it'll turn around but it doesn't.

You know the way they operate is not gonna build a winner, but yet you expect a winner. They do the same thing, leading you to believe it is right, and you expect and hope for a winner. That's insanity my friend.

Bunch of ****n a**holes they are.

How do you know this? You say you're no psychic, but you certainly are presenting yourself as having all the facts when we are 3 games into the first year of the new regime.

Do I think Pioli is going to build a consistent winner? Who the hell knows. His moves didn't thrill me this off-season, but I'd rather take a year to evaluate an entire operation than to blow money needlessly. But there were few free agents that were going to bridge the talent gap we had going into this season.

You can be mad he didn't address things, but saying that we will never be good, it's the same old shit, is complete and utter nonsense.

There is nothing about this season that reminds of me of a Carl Peterson team.

Are we terrible? Yes. But I really think some would rather just be 8-8 with a few free agent additions than really weeding through this roster.

If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There is nothing about this season that reminds of me of a Carl Peterson team.

The major off-season acquisition, another team's backup QB, isn't vintage Carl?

**SAUTO** · 09-28-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible.

i agree with you here, same could be said for haley and cassel also

**The Bad Guy** · 09-28-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The major off-season acquisition, another team's backup QB, isn't vintage Carl?

It is, but Carl would have traded for Cassel when he was 32.

TEX · 09-28-2009, 05:14 PM

If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible.
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No. But I DID expect the new GM to see the shit we had on the OL and make more of an attempt to FIX that - especially when you consider that said new GM was planning on getting himself his QB. That is NOT too much to expect in his first offseason. He FAILED test # 1.

**MahiMike** · 09-28-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1111

Dick V and his shitty drafting is as much too blame as anything else. I think his drafts are worse then Herms

He was truly a couple players away from winning it all. That's the way it works in free agency. You ride the wave to the top and then re-build.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It is, but Carl would have traded for Cassel when he was 32.

I won't argue this point.

|Zach| · 09-28-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

He was truly a couple players away from winning it all. That's the way it works in free agency. You ride the wave to the top and then re-build.

Yea a couple players...like 11 on defense.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-28-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible.
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No. But I DID expect the new GM to see the shit we had on the OL and make more of an attempt to FIX that - especially when you consider that said new GM was planning on getting himself his QB. That is NOT too much to expect in his first offseason. He FAILED test # 1.

I can agree with that.

Simplex3 · 09-28-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

No. But I DID expect the new GM to see the shit we had on the OL and make more of an attempt to FIX that - especially when you consider that said new GM was planning on getting himself his QB. That is NOT too much to expect in his first offseason. He FAILED test # 1.

Yeah, it wasn't like there were any other holes that needed to be fixed.

Brock · 09-28-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

He was truly a couple players away from winning it all. That's the way it works in free agency. You ride the wave to the top and then re-build.

Notice DICK didn't stick around to clean this mess up.

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Because this past offseason was the franchise doing the same things over and over that it has before.

Yes they did.

What difference does it make when you replace Damion McIntosh with Ndukwe? All you're doing is getting rid of a junk and replacing that position with another junk.

What difference does it make when you gid rid of Donnie Edwards and replace him with Mike Vrabel? Both old aging players clearly on the verge of being at the end of their football careers.

What difference does it make when you replace Jeff Webb with Terrence Copper? What difference does it make when you sign Mike Goff and replace Adrian Jones?

Regardless the moves are the same. You replace one scrap with another. Replace one cheap with another cheap. And you replace one old with another old. I thought positions are suposed to be upgraded? In the Chiefs case its not. Like I said, earlier, you cant expect to have a good football team when you try to create it with scrubs. If you don't have talent you aint winning its that simple, but yet were being told this is the "right way." this is the remedy of a team that will be 3-13.

Same philosophy, same mentality and thats why they will continue to suck because they ain't gonna change the way they operate.

Brock · 09-28-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Yes they did.

What difference does it make when you replace Damion McIntosh with Ndukwe? All you're doing is getting rid of a junk and replacing that position with another junk.

What difference does it make when you gid rid of Donnie Edwards and replace him with Mike Vrabel? Both old aging players clearly on the verge of being at the end of their football careers.

What difference does it make when you replace Jeff Webb with Terrence Copper? What difference does it make when you sign Mike Goff and replace Adrian Jones?

Regardless the moves are the same. You replace one scrap with another. Replace one cheap with another cheap. And you replace one old with another old. I thought positions are suposed to be upgraded? In the Chiefs case its not. Like I said, earlier, you cant expect to have a good football team when you try to create it with scrubs. If you don't have talent you aint winning its that simple, but yet were being told this is the "right way." this is the remedy of a team that will be 3-13.

Same philosophy, same mentality and thats why they will continue to suck because they ain't gonna change the way they operate.

Who are the players you would have brought in?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-28-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Because this past offseason was the franchise doing the same things over and over that it has before.

Trading for a backup QB from a "dynasty"? Check
Passing on developing a franchise QB in the draft? Check
Working with a good ole boy network? Check.

09-28-2009, 04:15 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Expect to be disappointed because there will be no talent on this team in the future Im no psychic, and neither do I have a crystal ball in front of me to predict the future. I make my statements clearly based in relation to how this dismal franchise operates. I hate to sound doom and gloom but it is leading towards that because of our football reality. I don't care if we hired Scott Pioli and hired a coach from the Parcell's tree. This means absolutely nothing. when you really get down to the main core of things, these guys will have no value on this franchise because they ain't the main guys behind the curtain. They're not in full control of football operations, they're not ultimately responsible for calling the shots nor pay the bills. They're just puppets obeying what their master wants from them. Seriously though, when you get down to it we have a shtty owner. Yeah Scott Pioli is who the fans wanted and Clark satisfied our desire in that regard. He comes from New England therefore we should all be excited because he comes from a winner and knows how to put championship teams together right? Im not gonna buy into this. If you really payed close attention the operations around 1 Arrowhead drive haven't changed. The Chiefs are still the same old Chiefs. They operate in the same manner and fashion just like when Herm and Carl were here. Just different men this time around. Seriously, it shouldn't take a *n rocket scientist to figure this out. We're being deceived into thinking this team is gonna turn it around and build a winner. we tune in and watch the games every Sunday, and why do we cheer? Because we want good things to happen. We want to win for sakes. That's why every fan watches sports and if you for one minute think that you can dodge your way around that, you're only fooling yourself. I honestly believe these guys are no different then salesmen trying to sell themselves to make you convinced why you should buy their product. Seriously, Im tired of this *n sht!! When Herm was here, they signed these **n castoffs from other teams, and as fans were lead into believing that what they were doing was right. How many times do you recall Herm say the best teams on paper don't win? As a result, they went out and signed trash...It is evident when you see them sign guys like Alphonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, an old Donnie Edwards, Adrian Jones...And these guys are players other teams didn't even consider keeping. Then, this time around, new regime, BUT, now were being told the team with the best players don't win. you have to have the "RIGHT" 53 players?! Well, off! This is clearly a ploy. Its a total cover up for an owner who is *n cheap and doesn't wish to spend the money. What's gonna be the excuse? Clark isn't spending the money because he is devoting it towards stadium renovations. Gimme a break. If we take a close look at the off-season we signed 2nd and 3rd tier players who aren't gonna make a difference or impact your team in any sort of way. And it's the same sht they sign "old" guys or injury riddled players who clearly aren't what they used to be. You can't take other teams scraps and expect to build a good team? That is my point. The saying is true, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sht. There is no excuse for this bullsht that is going on. None. They've clearly had opportunties to upgrade the talent on the roster and what did they do? They were there usual passive selves. They waited waited and signed scraps, while the good talent was there they didn't cash in on those opportunities. No excuses when you're 30 someodd million under the cap. I think it's important to "read between the lines". Pioli or no Pioli, Peterson or no Peterson the fact is Chief fans are getting ripped off. And I anticipate they will not win any time soon nor in the future. the reason is simple, the operations haven't changed at all. you have no talent, can you win? Absolutely not. And it's a shame because the fans of Kansas City love their football, while Clark doesn't relate to your passion nor has any regards towards it whatsoever.
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TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Galveston, TX Casino cash: $-1326873	If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible. ________________________________________________________________________________ No. But I DID expect the new GM to see the shit we had on the OL and make more of an attempt to FIX that - especially when you consider that said new GM was planning on getting himself his QB. That is NOT too much to expect in his first offseason. He FAILED test # 1. __________________ "Do we have time to run WASP?"
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