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Old 10-26-2009, 04:01 PM  
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This is a spin off of the language thread. It just happens to be very well timed for my current situation. I am in the Army and my 1SG a.k.a First Sergeant(head senior enlisted boss) is the topic of this next situation. 1SG is black and I am white.


1SG walks into room after all courtesies had been rendered. I am standing around with other soldiers. Admittedly, I'm standing like joe-cool with my hands on my sides staring off into space.


1SG walks up to me.
1SG "You got pistols in your pocket?"
ME- I go to parade rest (military position with hands behind my back)
ME- "No 1SG"
1SG "You look like a teapot."
ME- "I'm sorry 1SG am I not allowed to stand like that?"
1SG "You can stand however you want."
1SG walks away and I stupidly don't take the hint and go back to standing that way and 1SG walks back in.
1SG "Don't stand like that."
ME- "Yes 1SG"
1SG "You know who stands like that?"
ME- "Who 1SG"
1SG "A slave owner stands like that when he's watching his slaves in the field working. Have you ever seen a slave owner."
ME- "No 1SG"
1SG "Well thats how they stand."


I didn't take it too much to heart at that time(happened 2 months ago). But many circumstances that have happened after that have lead me to believe that he has a huge problem with me. My direct supervisor is aware of the situation and I think some stuff is brewing about this with my unit and am not really sure what to be expecting now.

What do you think about the exchange?
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:25 PM   #16
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White, black don't have a thing to do with it. In my experience a full 50+% of senior enlisted military types were complete incompetents with very few natural leadership skills so they overcompensate with the little power the stripes provide. This sounds like one of those cases. It's borderline abusive and I couldn't tolerate being treated like that by idiots so I lasted one enlistment. Certainly do value my five years and wouldn't really change much about my decision but this is truth.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:08 PM   #17
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White, black don't have a thing to do with it. In my experience a full 50+% of senior enlisted military types were complete incompetents with very few natural leadership skills so they overcompensate with the little power the stripes provide. This sounds like one of those cases. It's borderline abusive and I couldn't tolerate being treated like that by idiots so I lasted one enlistment. Certainly do value my five years and wouldn't really change much about my decision but this is truth.
I completely concur with this. Although I would say the percentage is closer to 60 - 70. White and Black absolutely had nothing to do with it. The military is truly a life experience that transcends the racial divide in our country. I gained black and white friends that I might give my life for and meet black and white people that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. BTW I just retired a couple months ago. 10 years active army, 10 years army national guard. Served in Desert Storm active and OIF in the NG.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:43 PM   #18
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:22 AM   #19
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This is a spin off of the language thread. It just happens to be very well timed for my current situation. I am in the Army and my 1SG a.k.a First Sergeant(head senior enlisted boss) is the topic of this next situation. 1SG is black and I am white.


1SG walks into room after all courtesies had been rendered. I am standing around with other soldiers. Admittedly, I'm standing like joe-cool with my hands on my sides staring off into space.


1SG walks up to me.
1SG "You got pistols in your pocket?"
ME- I go to parade rest (military position with hands behind my back)
ME- "No 1SG"
1SG "You look like a teapot."
ME- "I'm sorry 1SG am I not allowed to stand like that?"
1SG "You can stand however you want."
1SG walks away and I stupidly don't take the hint and go back to standing that way and 1SG walks back in.
1SG "Don't stand like that."
ME- "Yes 1SG"
1SG "You know who stands like that?"
ME- "Who 1SG"
1SG "A slave owner stands like that when he's watching his slaves in the field working. Have you ever seen a slave owner."
ME- "No 1SG"
1SG "Well thats how they stand."


I didn't take it too much to heart at that time(happened 2 months ago). But many circumstances that have happened after that have lead me to believe that he has a huge problem with me. My direct supervisor is aware of the situation and I think some stuff is brewing about this with my unit and am not really sure what to be expecting now.

What do you think about the exchange?



I think it's bullshit period, the guy was a dick
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:29 AM   #20
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:47 AM   #21
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I completely concur with this. Although I would say the percentage is closer to 60 - 70. White and Black absolutely had nothing to do with it. The military is truly a life experience that transcends the racial divide in our country. I gained black and white friends that I might give my life for and meet black and white people that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. BTW I just retired a couple months ago. 10 years active army, 10 years army national guard. Served in Desert Storm active and OIF in the NG.
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:51 AM   #22
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Old 10-27-2009, 06:45 AM   #23
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It's the military, you're going to find all kinds of "racism" if you look hard enough. I enlisted in the Army Reserve. At the Army hospital where I was getting all the testing done, I ran across a rather obnoxiously rude Marine Lance Corporal. He did the whole "where are you from boy?" act on me. I told him and then the old "steers and queers come from there and I don't see no horns on you, boy" act. He kept pressing trying to get me to say something like I was a bundle of sticks or something. I had just turned 18 and hadn't been exposed to such nonsense and was a little freaked out by it. The worse part was this Lance Corporal weighed maybe 130 soaking wet and had braces. I would have loved to knock his braces down his throat but resisted.
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:41 AM   #25
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:20 AM   #30
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Well, this situation has made it up to my commanders ears. He is white, and he investigates everything. Not sure what is going to happen. EO is a big deal in the Army and I could be in for some shit if I have to speak against my 1SG about this.

Wish me luck.
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