Get of Mark Castle's back!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I'm down with going the route of Sanchez/Garcia. I think that would have been a good combination of stop-gap/mentor, and building for the future. I do but I don't understand the concept of throwing these guys out on the field in their rookie years like Detroit and NYJ have done. It wouldn't have killed either of those guys to sit this year, especially Stafford. But what's done is done.
You can't look at what Mark has done and not be impressed. Even with the bumps in the road, the NFL learning-curve, and the lumps he's taken, the kid absolutely refuses to roll over and wilt.
As to the rest of our 09 draft and direction of the team, you should ask Hamas to re-post his board; it'll make you ****ing cringe and bang your head at how awesome and complete it is.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

I'm down with going the route of Sanchez/Garcia. I think that would have been a good combination of stop-gap/mentor, and building for the future. I do but I don't understand the concept of throwing these guys out on the field in their rookie years like Detroit and NYJ have done. It wouldn't have killed either of those guys to sit this year, especially Stafford. But what's done is done.
You can't look at what Mark has done and not be impressed. Even with the bumps in the road, the NFL learning-curve, and the lumps he's taken, the kid absolutely refuses to roll over and wilt.
As to the rest of our 09 draft and direction of the team, you should ask Hamas to re-post his board; it'll make you ****ing cringe and bang your head at how awesome and complete it is.

I see eye to eye with Hamas more than any other poster on the board on most issues since I have been here. We dont agree on everything, but I respect his opinion more than most on here, that is for sure! I am also sure he watches more college ball than me so his opinion on matters reguarding the players in the draft should hold a lot more weight than mine would if I doubled how much I watch college ball outside of a few teams.

You could definitely say take out Orakpo from my "bad example" and place Sanchez on the bench behind Garcia. I could see that. I wouldnt be against it 100% But it would be handcuffing us to him no matter what and I think that if we kept gailey, we also kept the "Arrowspread" and that Bradford would be a much better fit than Sanchez would be to it. JMO I may be wrong.

We need/ed a pass rusher and Orakpo was the best one out there and would have at least fit a need is all I am really saying.

Its really disappointing/disturbing to think how many different directions we could have gone other than the one we did.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I see eye to eye with Hamas more than any other poster on the board on most issues since I have been here. We dont agree on everything, but I respect his opinion more than most on here, that is for sure! I am also sure he watches more college ball than me so his opinion on matters reguarding the players in the draft should hold a lot more weight than mine would if I doubled how much I watch college ball outside of a few teams.

You could definitely say take out Orakpo from my "bad example" and place Sanchez on the bench behind Garcia. I could see that. I wouldnt be against it 100% But it would be handcuffing us to him no matter what and I think that if we kept gailey, we also kept the "Arrowspread" and that Bradford would be a much better fit than Sanchez would be to it. JMO I may be wrong.

We need/ed a pass rusher and Orakpo was the best one out there and would have at least fit a need is all I am really saying.

Its really disappointing/disturbing to think how many different directions we could have gone other than the one we did.

Well here's the thing, and I believe this to be true; Pioli was less interested in a build or "rebuild" than he was in trying to introduce a paradigm-shift to the operation as a whole.
Unfortunately, many things were underplayed, unnoticed, and quite frankly neglected as a result.
These guys are in a ****ing hole and desperately trying to get out of it.
Not because they suck, not because they have no talent or the proper mentoring necessary to begin the new jobs and task that they've undertaken, but because their first consensus as a partnership was the Wrong Call.
Fortunately, we're in a good place cap-wise to start turning it around. But the reality is; this year is lost, and the upcoming off season is where it truly begins for the "new face" of this franchise.
On many fronts.

People here and elsewhere complain about "lack of patience". To accuse a Chiefs fan of having "no patience" is to call the Earth flat; it's an absolute ****ing joke.
Are you ****ing kidding me?!?!?
If Chiefs fans were a Monastic Order, we'd more than likely be named "Disciples of Job" for ****'s sake.
But that doesn't mean we have to sit idly by and just "hope that people know what they're doing", and that everything is going to be alright.

Besides, where's the fun in that?

I submit that this fan base needs to get a little tougher and darker; the festive era of 60's Chiefs are over and we're dealing with guys who are more or less straight-up east coast.
It's time for the Chiefs Nation to grow eyes in the back and sleep with one eye open.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

I'm down with going the route of Sanchez/Garcia. I think that would have been a good combination of stop-gap/mentor, and building for the future. I do but I don't understand the concept of throwing these guys out on the field in their rookie years like Detroit and NYJ have done. It wouldn't have killed either of those guys to sit this year, especially Stafford. But what's done is done.
You can't look at what Mark has done and not be impressed. Even with the bumps in the road, the NFL learning-curve, and the lumps he's taken, the kid absolutely refuses to roll over and wilt.
As to the rest of our 09 draft and direction of the team, you should ask Hamas to re-post his board; it'll make you ****ing cringe and bang your head at how awesome and complete it is.

You can't mentor shit. Yeah, I'm sure CP would have embraced Jeff Garcia. I seem to remember at the time nothing but non stop ridicule of Jeff Garcia. And then I'm sure Chiefs fans would have enjoyed after watching Garcia for a year or two having Baby Jesus Sanchez come in and throw his 5 Interceptions and 112 yards. And I'm sure nobody would have been critical because "He's only 22!!!". Chiefs fans are patient like that.
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

You can't mentor shit. Yeah, I'm sure CP would have embraced Jeff Garcia. I seem to remember at the time nothing but non stop ridicule of Jeff Garcia. And then I'm sure Chiefs fans would have enjoyed after watching Garcia for a year or two having Baby Jesus Sanchez come in and throw his 5 Interceptions and 112 yards. And I'm sure nobody would have been critical because "He's only 22!!!". Chiefs fans are patient like that.
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Congratulations SAUTO; this by far and away your dumbest response to a post yet.

But by all means, keep working those super-awesome, kick-ass "original thoughts" of yours!
They're football gold. GOLD I SAY!

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Congratulations SAUTO; this by far and away your dumbest response to a post yet.

But by all means, keep working those super-awesome, kick-ass "original thoughts" of yours!
They're football gold. GOLD I SAY!

can you even ****ing READ who you are ****ing quoting?

[soundmind]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

can you even ****ing READ who you are ****ing quoting?

2 bizzy hatn patna!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

can you even ****ing READ who you are ****ing quoting?

At this point; you're both interchangeable.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

At this point; you're both interchangeable.

Really? wow. why dont you go find another post from one of the fab 5 to run around saying for a week.
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[milkman]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Really? wow. why dont you go find another post from one of the fab 5 to run around saying for a week.
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The gang of 14 shrunk?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

And get off Sunk Vessel's back.

SS Cassel: