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Old 12-23-2009, 11:14 PM  
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HI BRC: I think most of the posters on this board think you're a good egg. This whole deal today got way out of hand based on what this thing really was, two angry guys having an exchange. Some of the questions that have been asked, here's some feedback: Jack Harry sent me an email on Monday and asked me if Haley really did this, and to describe what happened. I sent Jack a lengthy explanation and said "you should ask the coach if he had a run in with a fan after the game, and if Coach used an obscene gesture." I also told him that EDITED NAME, sitting next to me, also saw this go down, and he could email EDITED NAME and get his input. EDITED NAME gave the same explanation. Mrs. Blowfish was seated on my right. She also saw this happen, but she's a EDITED PROFESSION, and the last thing I wanted was to get her mixed up in this.

In journalism terms, these are three witnesses too closely related to collaborate the story. I did not ask Jack to talk about this publicly, and I don't think he should have until he had gathered better evidence. I think he should have waited until he could find another positive witnesses to confirm what happened. He did not lie to the public, his commentary was accurate. But neither EDITED NAME or I encouraged him, we just answered his questions the best we could. Apparently the press had not been able to locate anybody else to confirm the story, and probably the only others who saw it happen (it was real fast, just a quick gesture lasted only a second) were the Chiefs own security guys, and they're not going to risk their jobs by ratting out the coach. No photos, no other witnesses, so the easy PR thing is deny everything. And discredit the source of the criticism. No pictures, he said she said, and Game Over.

I see no good in pressing on this any further, unless somebody else can confirm what we saw. It pisses me off that I'm now suspected of being a liar. All I can do is tell the truth, and I've done that since the beginning of this whole mess.

I hope you and the rest of the CP understand while I let this thing play itself out. CP has a great bunch of fans, and are smart enough to know when the PR is being pulled over their eyes. Perhaps you'll welcome me back later and consider my thoughs with an open mind and with reputation in tact. Merry Christmas, the best to you, all the CP and families. Thanks for sticking up for me today. I really appreciate it. George Blowfish
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:25 PM   #16
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I feel bad for him, I found myself in a similar situation many years ago and I know what he's going through.

And FWIW, I don't doubt him one bit.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:27 PM   #17
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:28 PM   #18
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i agree, this isn't a big deal. two guys expressing themselves after a frustrating loss. we've all seen haley on the sideline and how he lets his emotions get the better of him...i'm sure his reaction to blowfish was yet another example of this.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:28 PM   #19
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I noticed he voted in the Haley-Blowfish poll. I lollalrad.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:29 PM   #20
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All opinions aside, GBF seems to have the respect of alot of the fellas here and if my opinion matters any, I think that respect will continue when he returns, as it should.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:29 PM   #21
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I don't think your reputation is in question at all.

Perhaps some, like myself, are still a bit confused how something like this can happen in such a public place, in the area where there are probably more people watching the figures, especially a head coach who is being yelled at, and no one else sees it to back up the story other than your friend. But, if you said it happened, I have no reason to doubt you.

I must say though, I do wish that now you would email Whitlock and tell him your story, as he is a national reporter, and if this really did happen, he is exactly the type of person that would put Haley's ass to the fire. Seems that this was definitely an important thing to many on here, as seen by the numerous 200+ post threads. And, it obviously was important to you too to write such a lengthy explanation. I think that since this is out in the open, you should really tell your story and see what happens.

But, ultimately, it is your prerogative to let this die if you wish. I agree this thing has definitely blown out of proportion, but really, what did you expect would happen when the biggest loudmouth blowhard in Kansas City Sports Talk got ahold of even a small piece of a story that could bury the head coach?
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:31 PM   #22
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Dang, Mr. gblowfish, your friends are here. There's no reason to lie low.

Frankly, I haven't seen a single person on this site (other than the WPI nutbags) question your credibility. This is a minor storm, my friend. It will soon blow over like a fish.

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Old 12-23-2009, 11:32 PM   #23
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I don't think your reputation is in question at all.

Perhaps some, like myself, are still a bit confused how something like this can happen in such a public place, in the area where there are probably more people watching the figures, especially a head coach who is being yelled at, and no one else sees it to back up the story other than your friend. But, if you said it happened, I have no reason to doubt you.

I must say though, I do wish that now you would email Whitlock and tell him your story, as he is a national reporter, and if this really did happen, he is exactly the type of person that would put Haley's ass to the fire. Seems that this was definitely an important thing to many on here, as seen by the numerous 200+ post threads. And, it obviously was important to you too to write such a lengthy explanation. I think that since this is out in the open, you should really tell your story and see what happens.

But, ultimately, it is your prerogative to let this die if you wish. I agree this thing has definitely blown out of proportion, but really, what did you expect would happen when the biggest loudmouth blowhard in Kansas City Sports Talk got ahold of even a small piece of a story that could bury the head coach?
On 810, they were saying that as the coach/players are going into the tunnel, from that vantage point only the people in the front row would be able to see anything.

It's on tape somewhere, probably, and been given the "Rules of Engagement" treatment.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:33 PM   #24
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I don't think your reputation is in question at all.

Perhaps some, like myself, are still a bit confused how something like this can happen in such a public place, in the area where there are probably more people watching the figures, especially a head coach who is being yelled at, and no one else sees it to back up the story other than your friend. But, if you said it happened, I have no reason to doubt you.

I must say though, I do wish that now you would email Whitlock and tell him your story, as he is a national reporter, and if this really did happen, he is exactly the type of person that would put Haley's ass to the fire. Seems that this was definitely an important thing to many on here, as seen by the numerous 200+ post threads. And, it obviously was important to you too to write such a lengthy explanation. I think that since this is out in the open, you should really tell your story and see what happens.

But, ultimately, it is your prerogative to let this die if you wish. I agree this thing has definitely blown out of proportion, but really, what did you expect would happen when the biggest loudmouth blowhard in Kansas City Sports Talk got ahold of even a small piece of a story that could bury the head coach?
Or maybe Whitlock should do some real journalism and find out if there were cameras down there or see if one of those security guards will talk?
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:33 PM   #25
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It's too bad Rufus isn't around anymore.

He could fire off a doozy right now.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:34 PM   #26
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I don't think your reputation is in question at all.

Perhaps some, like myself, are still a bit confused how something like this can happen in such a public place, in the area where there are probably more people watching the figures, especially a head coach who is being yelled at, and no one else sees it to back up the story other than your friend. But, if you said it happened, I have no reason to doubt you.

I must say though, I do wish that now you would email Whitlock and tell him your story, as he is a national reporter, and if this really did happen, he is exactly the type of person that would put Haley's ass to the fire. Seems that this was definitely an important thing to many on here, as seen by the numerous 200+ post threads. And, it obviously was important to you too to write such a lengthy explanation. I think that since this is out in the open, you should really tell your story and see what happens.

But, ultimately, it is your prerogative to let this die if you wish. I agree this thing has definitely blown out of proportion, but really, what did you expect would happen when the biggest loudmouth blowhard in Kansas City Sports Talk got ahold of even a small piece of a story that could bury the head coach?
I think he's smart in letting it die. It's something that got blown out of proportion. Like someone else said, two people acting out of frustration, even if one definitely shouldn't have. If he pursues it, especially if no other witnesses come forward, he will only be getting more of the same, only on a national level.

Don't stay away too long, George.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:34 PM   #27
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I remember my kindergarten teacher, Mrs. Longfellow, taught that if you can't say something nice then keep your mouth shut.

I have not always followed that, but here is a real life example of someone creating a lot of grief for himself and others by throwing an unnecessary verbal stone at someone.
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Or maybe he does some real journalism and find out if there were cameras down there or see if one of those security guards will talk?
There had to be cameras down there. Good luck getting the Chiefs to release the tapes. Why would they?
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:35 PM   #29
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Haley's attitude from day one of training camp can easily tell that he would flip off a fan. Fugg him.

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I honestly can't see how ANYONE could doubt GBlowfish on this. Regardless of personal opinion of him or his takes on things... he has always been a valued member of CP for over 7 years now.



I also agree with gblowfish that it isn't a big deal.. just kindof a funny end to "fan appreciation day"
Well, if you don't know the guy, one may doubt. Unintentionally, this has gotten well out of the realm of CP, and therefore a lot of people are making some opinions without knowing him.

And it isn't a big deal. It's a slow sports week and a bad team and folks are going to talk about something. It'll likely blow over come Sunday and everyone can get to arguing about something else.
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