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Old 01-04-2010, 05:52 PM  
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Quest for a new OC.

2010 brings some excitement with it considering all of the smoke these 'Crennel to KC' rumors we've been hearing lately. The organization would be remiss not to bring in an equally strong Offensive Coordinator to relieve Haley of his duties.

Who might be available for the job in the off-season?

Charlie Weis, La Canfora seems to think KC will be his eventual landing spot but this one hasn't been corroborated by as many sources. In fact, I think he's currently the only source speculating that this will happen. Weis would be particularly beneficial to the growth of our 60-million-dollar man Matt Cassel. Can he and Pioli play nice?

Rob Chudzinski, Currently an assistant head coach for the Bolts. He had a hand in the Top 10 offense that the Browns fielded in 2007. Derek Anderson, Kellen Winslow, Jr. and Braylon Edwards all posted their best single-season efforts with him at the playcalling helm. He's coached (and helped) some uber-talented TE's over the years.

Who else is out there?

I thought maybe Kyle Shanahan would shake loose from Houston, but it looks like Kubiak's going to retain his job.

...discuss.

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Old 01-04-2010, 06:30 PM   #16
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What I'm saying is there are at least 10 winnable games on the schedule, as opposed to four or five, like we've seen in recent years.
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:39 PM   #17
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I would be happy with 7 wins on that schedule, solid improvement.
I think well do waht we did this year and double our wins. 8 wins unless we fall prey to injury.

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Old 01-04-2010, 06:51 PM   #18
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It isn't overly difficult to see 10 wins on next year's schedule.

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I'm not getting to 10. San Fran, Buffalo, Oakland x 2, St Louis & Seattle with one win against Denver.

7 wins is my guess. Maybe we beat Jacksonville, but I wouldn't count on it.
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:13 PM   #19
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My thing is will the new OC run the same offense Haley has been running? Same terminology and all? I think it would make for another transition period which I think would be bad for our players at this point if we changed schemes. I think the O line is getting "it" and Charles has "it". If Cassel's gonna get "it" changing the offense will only hender that IMO.


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That's a great point and one most haven't thought of. I'd have to think Haley would give in to the terminology as long as the philosophy is the same. They'd have all of camp to work it out this time.
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:39 PM   #20
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:55 PM   #21
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We lost 6 game this year by 7 points or less. Baltimore we aborted in the last few minutes...I don't think winning 10 games next year is absurd to predict. I, however, think 8 games is more realistic.
An easier schedule (on paper) and a new defensive coordinator alone won't magically transform the Chiefs into a 10 win team.

Fat Scott is actually going to have to participate in free agency this offseason (and by "participate" I mean more than just signing 36 year old WRs).

I understand the excitement that yesterday's big win generated, but that doesn't erase the fact the Chiefs finished 4-12 this year.

A 6 win improvement is going to require significant upgrades to the current roster.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:31 PM   #22
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Or this team could just get better...


Or maybe we could beat a team next year that we aren't supposed to like we did a couple times this year?
Well, this team damn well better improve.

My point is, so should every other team in the league.

So either he expects us to become freaking worldbeaters next year, or he sees a large percentage of the league not improving, or regressing.

Either way, at this point, one day into the post season, saying there are 10 winnable games on the schedule after winning 4 this year is laughable.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:44 PM   #23
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Every team on that list, save STL, was better than us THIS YEAR.

So, who is going to get worse, IYO?

Or is this the year of the Atlanta/Miami turnaround, + 1 year?
I disagree. How can you say Oakland will be better when hiring yet another coach? How will Buffalo be imrpoved with questions at QB? Denver won't be a better team without Marshall. So theres ATLEAST 6 wins on the schedule.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:48 PM   #24
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I disagree. How can you say Oakland will be better when hiring yet another coach? How will Buffalo be imrpoved with questions at QB? Denver won't be a better team without Marshall. So theres ATLEAST 6 wins on the schedule.
You're reaching, but whatever. Making a LOT of assumptions.

Every year, people say we're going to sweep Oakland. Doesn't happen.

The past 2 years, everyone said we'd beat Buffalo. Didn't happen.

Bottom line is this:

To get to 10 wins, we're going to have to improve significantly, and a good chunk of the league is going to have to regress significantly.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:52 PM   #25
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You're reaching, but whatever. Making a LOT of assumptions.

Every year, people say we're going to sweep Oakland. Doesn't happen.

The past 2 years, everyone said we'd beat Buffalo. Didn't happen.

Bottom line is this:

To get to 10 wins, we're going to have to improve significantly, and a good chunk of the league is going to have to regress significantly.
I don't think it's a reach saying that the AFC West will be worse next year. You don't just replace a talent like Marshall and Denvers defense didn't look so good at the end of the year. The Chiefs were what 1 minute from a sweep of the Raiders? That franchise won't be any better until Al Davis sells the team. Theres no reason to not expect improvement if Crennel & Weis are brought in.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:55 PM   #26
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I don't think it's a reach saying that the AFC West will be worse next year. You don't just replace a talent like Marshall and Denvers defense didn't look so good at the end of the year. The Chiefs were what 1 minute from a sweep of the Raiders? That franchise won't be any better until Al Davis sells the team. Theres no reason to not expect improvement if Crennel & Weis are brought in.
Marshall's a RFA.

The only way he's not a Bronco next year is if they outright cut him, (not happening) or they take pennies on the dollar for him. No one is going to give them what they think he's worth.

And funny you mention improvement based solely on coaching.

I remember last year when Pendergast was brought in, and people thought he was a significant upgrade over Gunther.

That worked out well.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:57 PM   #27
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You're reaching, but whatever. Making a LOT of assumptions.

Every year, people say we're going to sweep Oakland. Doesn't happen.

The past 2 years, everyone said we'd beat Buffalo. Didn't happen.

Bottom line is this:

To get to 10 wins, we're going to have to improve significantly, and a good chunk of the league is going to have to regress significantly.
I agree and think 6-7 wins would be about right after this year. The 7 or less point losses this year makes me have flash backs of last years end of season thinking as well.
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:04 PM   #28
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I disagree. How can you say Oakland will be better when hiring yet another coach? How will Buffalo be imrpoved with questions at QB? Denver won't be a better team without Marshall. So theres ATLEAST 6 wins on the schedule.
Oakland was head and shoulders better than us this year. Hell.. They SHOULD of contended for the division with all their talent. Al, their coaching and Russell and injuries held them back.
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:12 PM   #29
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:30 PM   #30
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My guess for O.C. is anyone who mixes in short precises passes with a heavy run load because Cassel couldn't succeed in anything else. Poor accuracy, poor decisions, and a 1000 yard back and we'll see 4 wins.
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