Chiefs Is it starting to become pathetic how Patriots-like we're trying to be? - Page 4

TigerPig · 10:51 PM

I mean, do other teams and analysts think, "They are so smart for going after Weis, Cassel, and (possibly) Crennel, to try and bring that winning attitude to KC!" Or are they thinking, "How pathetic, they can't even make their own decisions on coaching and are just trying to copy New England as much as possible!"

Its pretty obvious we're ripping off the Patriots' philosophy. We're not copying it, we're literally trying to take the exact personnel and players they had and win with them here. Is this a smart, tactful thing? Or a sad and pathetic thing?

FTR I don't see a problem with it. If we start winning, they can change Cassel's name to Tom Brady and put Haley in a huge hoodie for all I care.

BIG K · 01-06-2010, 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;6417534]Who gives a **** what "analysts" think?

Charlie Weis is a damn good offensive coordinator. Period. He'll bring so much to the Chiefs offensively that I would not be shocked to see us in the Top Ten next year.

Offense is all about play design. Cassel has limitations (as does every QB) but I fully expect Weis to design plays that will limit his deficiencies while creating plays that make him far more efficient.

Haley had some good ideas but he was stretched way too thin. He did a lot of stupid shit because there was no one around with a pedigree he respected to keep him in check. I guarantee that all those stupid, inappropriate trick plays and shit like trying a fake punt on your own 28 while only down one score has come to an end.

Well Put! People here bitched that Haley fired Gan, then people bitched that Haley was calling the shots. Everyone agreed that an improvement needed to be made. Now people bitch because the improvement came from 'friendlies". Never mind he is a good coach, just damn the fact that the Chiefs know him.....

If I was taking on a project of huge magnitude, I would surround myself with people I knew that was capable of helping me out......

ChiefsCountry · 01-06-2010, 10:57 PM

I think the thing is trying to recapture lightining in a bottle more than likely isn't going to work especially when the main pieces of the lighting bolt aren't zapping.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-06-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Just curious when did the Chiefs try to emulate the 49ers?

1993 when we added Montana and moved to the WCO.

TigerPig · 01-06-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

He's not really asking a question you dumbass, he is stirring shit with his "question". Damn you're a ****ing reerun.

I was asking a question and not just stirring shit. I'm not a troll, I've been around enough MBs to know how they work. But you know better than me what I'm thinking.

If I was going to troll, I would have picked something other than a silly off question like what people will think of the organization. I would have said something like, "Why does Todd Haley suck" or, "Why do people think that (insert draft candidate here) is a good pick when he sucks?"

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Originally Posted by luv

What an emotional, optimistic observation.

Okay, you got me. But don't let anyone else know, or my street cred will be ruined. You hear me!?!

Micjones · 01-06-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I can't tell you who would be better because no one else has been fired. No one else is available at the moment.

I'm considering quite a few coaches who aren't even available yet (and may not be) and I'm STILL not sure I can think of a BETTER candidate.

There are definitely some good ones I can name (Shanahan, Jackson, Chudzinski)...
BETTER? I'm not certain.

PastorMikH · 01-06-2010, 10:58 PM

I now I'm kinda sick of trying to be like the Detroit Lions. At least they are trying to copy a team that won/wins.

BIG K · 01-06-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Just curious when did the Chiefs try to emulate the 49ers?

IIRC, Montanna, Bono, GrBack? West coast offense, though it was never a pure west coast offense. I could be wrong though....

TigerPig · 01-06-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Kyle Shanahan just made a lateral move

This doesn't count!!!

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

I now I'm kinda sick of trying to be like the Detroit Lions. At least they are trying to copy a team that won/wins.

Matt Millen can kiss my ass, and I don't even cheer for the Lions.

Instead of New England we need to emulate the 69 Chiefs. All we need is a legendary QB, Two of the greatest LBs ever, one monster of a DT, an amazing secondary, and Jan Stenarud

ChiefsCountry · 01-06-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

I now I'm kinda sick of trying to be like the Detroit Lions. At least they are trying to copy a team that won/wins.

Actually I wouldn't mind copying what Detroit has right now. They have the best young QB and a great football mind as a coach.

PastorMikH · 01-06-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Actually I wouldn't mind copying what Detroit has right now. They have the best young QB and a great football mind as a coach.

You'd rather be 2-14?

**luv** · 01-06-2010, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

Okay, you got me. But don't let anyone else know, or my street cred will be ruined. You hear me!?!

What? I just got in from yelling TigerPig optimistically recognizes love from my balcony.

**luv** · 01-06-2010, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG K

IIRC, Montanna, Bono, GrBack? West coast offense, though it was never a pure west coast offense. I could be wrong though....

Hey stranger!

**luv** · 01-06-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Actually I wouldn't mind copying what Detroit has right now. They have the best young QB and a great football mind as a coach.

Stafford has proven to be one tough SOB.

salame · 01-06-2010, 11:04 PM

Last time I checked the patriots haven't won a super bowl since weis left

ChiefsCountry · 01-06-2010, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

You'd rather be 2-14?

Considering they are more than likley getting Suh from Nebraska to add to Stafford and Calvin Johnson. Yeah I would. If they were smart they would have took Oher last year and Detroit would be on its way even more.

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BIG K Veteran Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California Casino cash: $9795230	[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;6417534]Who gives a **** what "analysts" think? Charlie Weis is a damn good offensive coordinator. Period. He'll bring so much to the Chiefs offensively that I would not be shocked to see us in the Top Ten next year. Offense is all about play design. Cassel has limitations (as does every QB) but I fully expect Weis to design plays that will limit his deficiencies while creating plays that make him far more efficient. Haley had some good ideas but he was stretched way too thin. He did a lot of stupid shit because there was no one around with a pedigree he respected to keep him in check. I guarantee that all those stupid, inappropriate trick plays and shit like trying a fake punt on your own 28 while only down one score has come to an end. Well Put! People here bitched that Haley fired Gan, then people bitched that Haley was calling the shots. Everyone agreed that an improvement needed to be made. Now people bitch because the improvement came from 'friendlies". Never mind he is a good coach, just damn the fact that the Chiefs know him..... If I was taking on a project of huge magnitude, I would surround myself with people I knew that was capable of helping me out......
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PastorMikH Will KC ever be better? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Land of Red Dirt & Necks Casino cash: $9905087	I now I'm kinda sick of trying to be like the Detroit Lions. At least they are trying to copy a team that won/wins. __________________
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