Football Outsiders Ranks Matt Cassel 44th of 46 QBs

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by okcchief

Well, he is in the same neighborhood as Sanchez and Cutler who many here have the hard dick for.

Don't knock Sanchez. His 63 yards passing carried the Jets into the playoffs
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[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Don't knock Sanchez. His 63 yards passing carried the Jets into the playoffs
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Yes, and he "led" the Jets to a winning record.

Some posters here are full ****ing reerun.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Yes, and he "led" the Jets to a winning record.

Some posters here are full ****ing reerun.

Seriously, not since Tony Eason with the Patriots in 1985 has a qb been literally carried by his team. Put Manning on the Jets with that defense and running game and they go 16-0....um, since Caldwell isn't the coach.
Hell, Cassel showed in 2008 that if you put HIM on this Jets team they would have been 11-5 this year.
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[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Seriously, not since Tony Eason with the Patriots in 1985 has a qb been literally carried by his team. Put Manning on the Jets with that defense and running game and they go 16-0....um, since Caldwell isn't the coach.
Hell, Cassel showed in 2008 that if you put HIM on this Jets team they would have been 11-5 this year.
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I don't know that I've seen a QB carried more than Sanchez has been this year. At least Dilfer was a good game manager and didn't turn the ball over. Sanchez sucks ****ing goat balls. Course some of us knew he would while stupid MF'ers talked about him as being a franchise QB. "If there's a franchise QB in the draft you pull the trigger on drafting him" and ****ing horse shit like that.

[B_Ambuehl]

In the pocket, Manning and Brady are far better than anyof the other names you mentioned.

Favre and Romo are "gamers" because they use their legs more than others, while still maintaining some semblence of a pocket presense.

However, QBs like Manning, Brady, Montana, and an up and coming Rivers move/ed in the pocket better and have a more instinctual feel for avoiding pressure while still working inside of the pocket.

It's not just about pocket presence it's the way they see the field and process information. Favre and Romo often literally throw no look passes on the football field. They see everything at once, without zeroing in on anything. They're both extreme examples and perceptive ability of that degree is not rquired of NFL QBs, but you cant' be a total robot either. QBs like Cassell see and do only 1 thing at a time and whatever they're seeing, thinking, or doing is zeroed in on with tunnel vision. Rivers is the closest of the successful QBs to be that way but can also do things with his accuracy that Cassell can't.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

It's not just about pocket presence it's the way they see the field and process information. Favre and Romo often literally throw no look passes on the football field. They see everything at once, without zeroing in on anything. They're both extreme examples and perceptive ability of that degree is not rquired of NFL QBs, but you cant' be a total robot either. QBs like Cassell see and do only 1 thing at a time and whatever they're seeing, thinking, or doing is zeroed in on with tunnel vision. Rivers is the closest of the successful QBs to be that way but can also do things with his accuracy that Cassell can't.

And for Favre, and especially Romo, that "No look" pass lead to a lot of interceptions.

Romo cut down tremendously on that "No look" pass after the third game this season, and his interceptions went down, and overall performance, especially in December, improved.