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Old 03-02-2010, 10:24 AM  
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Haden just lost about $10 mil in 4.6 secs, Berry 4.5
Per Schefter on ESPN:

@Adam_Schefter RT @MoveTheSticks: On a scouts watch, Haden just ran 4.59. Berry ran 4.50. about an hour ago

Feel bad for Haden, that is going to hurt big time.
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:10 AM   #31
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I have to believe so. We are talking one-tenth of a second. I know corners need catch up speed, but is a tenth of a second going to matter to a CB who is out of position, falls or bites on the out move? Give me a smarter, more agile football player and I'll not care about a tenth or two.

What was Flowers speed at the combine? Anyone remember?
Flowers ran a 4.58 at the combine. Took him from a top 15 player to the second round.

However, Flowers also possesses a fantastic hip swivel which allows him to stay with receivers in breaks and plays on the ball better than "faster" guys.

Personally, I don't think that Haden's time is that big of a deal. The guy is exceptional in his ability to stay on a receivers hips and instinctively play the ball.
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:18 AM   #32
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CB is the 1 position that it completely matters to in relation to draft position.
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Old 03-08-2010, 02:16 AM   #33
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CB is the 1 position that it completely matters to in relation to draft position.
To a certain degree. I think that there are intangibles that don't show up in a 40 yard dash that have a significant impact on a guys real in-game speed versus a track and field sprint. Hip turn, footwork, etc. Flowers is the poster boy for that, and Haden is very similar in that he's got superb backpeddle, hip turn and balance. He's as fast as anyone on the field in pads. Blankets guys completely. Ask Marshawn Gilyard. He'll tell you.
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:12 AM   #34
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40 time will drop a top CB but it doesn't seem to bump guys much. The kids from Boise and Rutgers ran respectable times and showed good fluidity and change of motion, but they didn't really jump up draft boards. I know it isn't a position of need, but if you are going strictly by a BAP methodology KC could choose either of them in the 2nd.
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Kyle Wilson is probably a 1st rounder at this point.
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40 times are generally overrated but for a cornerback they should do help.

they need to faster than WR to really relax and play comfortable ... if they can can "outrun the ball" on the deep timing patterns it really helps too.

WR's know where they are going so they can technique their way


the cornerback position is where speed and quickness in most important
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