What is Chiefsplanet's take on marijuana?

[KCChiefsMan]

This is purely out of curiosity. I'm just wandering what the majority here think about marijuana.

Do you think it's good or bad for adults to smoke it?

Do you think it's harmful in our society?

Do you think it should be illegal?

If you think it should be kept illegal, what are your reasons for that?

What reasons do you think it is currently illegal for?


poll coming

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Prisons are overcrowded all over the US for minor shit like selling pot. If anything legalizing pot would help the prison systems.

The legal & social repercussions is the crux. never gonna happen.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by The Poz

My pot doesn't cost me anything. That's as far as I'll go on that subject.

i wouldnt have even gone that far.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Prisons are overcrowded all over the US for minor shit like selling pot. If anything legalizing pot would help the prison systems.

it doesn't matter if they're overcrowded or not, somebody is being paid to warehouse these people.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by frazod

Marijuana is much, much easier to grow than tobacco.

Originally Posted by Brock

There's quite a bit more processing involved in creating usable tobacco.

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

ummm cause dirt,water, & sunshine makes weeds grow.

There may be more home grown pot than home grown tobacco but there wouldn't be that much of it. It's easy to grow tomatoes and other vegetables, but I see a lot of people buying them in the grocery store, even in my semi-rural area where gardening is common. Convenience sells.

I'll agree with you to the extent that you wouldn't be able to heavily tax it because at some point the tax burden will incentivize a black market and/or home growing. There might be some price adjustment in the market, but if the tax burden isn't excessive, there's no reason to think that pot gardening would be any more prevalent than vegetable gardening, IMO.

[jspchief]

Most of the adults I know that are still smoking pot are losers. Some of them may have the outward appearance of success, but they have problems that aren't as apparent.

Not saying it's directly related to the use of pot. Just saying I rarely come across an adult user that I otherwise admire.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by patteeu

There may be more home grown pot than home grown tobacco but there wouldn't be that much of it. It's easy to grow tomatoes and other vegetables, but I see a lot of people buying them in the grocery store, even in my semi-rural area where gardening is common. Convenience sells.

I'll agree with you to the extent that you wouldn't be able to heavily tax it because at some point the tax burden will incentivize a black market and/or home growing. There might be some price adjustment in the market, but if the tax burden isn't excessive, there's no reason to think that pot gardening would be any more prevalent than vegetable gardening, IMO.

What part of IT'S A WEED don't you get? It's a weed. It grows naturally, everywhere, easily, on it's own. You don't have water it three times a day or sprinkle it with Miracle Grow.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Bullshit. Ive been to the heart of drug culture and never got caught up in any of that shit. Those who do are lookin for it anyway.

You just didn't want it bad enough, you lightweight you.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by frazod

What part of IT'S A WEED don't you get? It's a weed. It grows naturally, everywhere, easily, on it's own. You don't have water it three times a day or sprinkle it with Miracle Grow.

If you want anything other than ditch weed then it's not that simple. Just because it grows easily doesn't mean it grows well. Growing top notch to decent weed takes time and effort. Once you start considering selective breeding and the intricacies of what growing medium works best for whatever strain then it becomes more than just throw the seed in the ground and wait a few months.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by KC native

If you want anything other than ditch weed then it's not that simple. Just because it grows easily doesn't mean it grows well. Growing top notch to decent weed takes time and effort. Once you start considering selective breeding and the intricacies of what growing medium works best for whatever strain then it becomes more than just throw the seed in the ground and wait a few months.

I understand there are higher, more complex levels. But the crap that grows out behind the shed will still get you high.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by patteeu

There may be more home grown pot than home grown tobacco but there wouldn't be that much of it. It's easy to grow tomatoes and other vegetables, but I see a lot of people buying them in the grocery store, even in my semi-rural area where gardening is common. Convenience sells.

I'll agree with you to the extent that you wouldn't be able to heavily tax it because at some point the tax burden will incentivize a black market and/or home growing. There might be some price adjustment in the market, but if the tax burden isn't excessive, there's no reason to think that pot gardening would be any more prevalent than vegetable gardening, IMO.

I pretty much agree with this. I can't imagine a majority of people suddenly wanting to grow it themselves. Some will, of course, but the convenience of getting it at a store far outweighs the effort it would take to grow at home.

Not to mention the fact that growing it in plain sight would undoubtedly tempt passers-by who would rather not pay for it at all.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by frazod

I understand there are higher, more complex levels. But the crap that grows out behind the shed will still get you high.

for about 20 minutes and then it will give you a massive headache.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by KC native

for about 20 minutes and then it will give you a massive headache.

Worked fine back in high school.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by KC native

If you want anything other than ditch weed then it's not that simple. Just because it grows easily doesn't mean it grows well. Growing top notch to decent weed takes time and effort. Once you start considering selective breeding and the intricacies of what growing medium works best for whatever strain then it becomes more than just throw the seed in the ground and wait a few months.

If it were legal, it really isn't that hard to grow good outdoor. Genetics is the most important thing with outdoor. The reason cultivation is so complicated now is that people have gone indoor in order to increase yields and shorten growth cycles.

[Jenson71]

I answered two of the questions.

I said it was a bad drug. By this I mean it is often mind altering and escapist, like alcohol. Sometimes that's a good thing, though. For instance, if you are like Pam here or others suffering from physical pain. You should have the ability to smoke pot in order to ease that. For those of us not suffering, but still just want to smoke pot because it makes them feel better, I think the costs aren't as drastic as the economic benefits (stopping the costly punishments, taxes). Thus I'm not opposed to legalizing it.

The people that reguarly smoked pot in my high school were complete losers, though, and most have made nothing of their potential and today wallow in simple pleasures like X-Box games and cheap beer. I have tried it on more than one occassion, and it did nothing for me, thank God.

Employers have drug tests (though this is a touchy subject for good reason: random drug tests, drug tests for no reason, and other potential issues are serious concerns and invasions of privacy in many cases). What is true is that employers should be able to expect that their employees aren't drunk or high on the job. Those who work for a good company will probably not smoke pot, if they wish to move ahead or not get fired. Those who want to work hard and achieve economic and social success in life will stay away from it, just like they mostly stay away from other dangers now. I don't see a drastic social change coming from legalizing pot, like society becoming less productive. Perhaps it can reinforce the increasing inequality in America, but that is a social crisis that is much deeper than the issue of drugs, and can be dealt with regardless of legalization.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

You just didn't want it bad enough, you lightweight you.

couldnt make money if youre a drug abuser.