Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-16-2010, 04:46 PM   #1
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $-1645912
I cant find it, but I can remember reading how Dick wanted to draft Jared so bad that he got up on the table during the draft and basically demanded CP to draft him.

The other player I can remember Dick wanting bad was Tyler Brayton (who was his preference when CP drafted LJ the previous year)

Gun is full of shit I think. Kendall Gammon was kept here till 2006, so that stuff that Dick was gonna let go of the long snapper and draft Jared is BS.

Jared Allen had more sacks in college than any other player iirc, who cares what school?

The idea that Jared was drafted to strictly long snap is ridiculous.

Gun obviously has ill will for Dick Vermiel because he replaced him as HC back in the day and those statements he made were over 5 years after the fact.
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,889
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 04:47 PM   #2
OnTheWarpath15 OnTheWarpath15 is offline
MVP
 
OnTheWarpath15's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $2131115
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post
I cant find it, but I can remember reading how Dick wanted to draft Jared so bad that he got up on the table during the draft and basically demanded CP to draft him.

The other player I can remember Dick wanting bad was Tyler Brayton (who was his preference when CP drafted LJ the previous year)

Gun is full of shit I think. Kendall Gammon was kept here till 2006, so that stuff that Dick was gonna let go of the long snapper and draft Jared is BS.

Jared Allen had more sacks in college than any other player iirc, who cares what school?

The idea that Jared was drafted to strictly long snap is ridiculous.

Gun obviously has ill will for Dick Vermiel because he replaced him as HC back in the day and those statements he made were over 5 years after the fact.
Posts: 60,750
OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 04:53 PM   #3
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $-1645912
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 View Post
.
what part is wrong and Ill dig more. It may take me awhile to find it, but Im sure its out there. I just didnt want to try that hard.

If he was gonna take him to be a long snapper (when we had a probowl quality one) why did we keep Kendall around till after the 06 season?
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,889
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 04:55 PM   #4
OnTheWarpath15 OnTheWarpath15 is offline
MVP
 
OnTheWarpath15's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $2131115
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post
what part is wrong and Ill dig more. It may take me awhile to find it, but Im sure its out there. I just didnt want to try that hard.

If he was gonna take him to be a long snapper (when we had a probowl quality one) why did we keep Kendall around till after the 06 season?
I'm sure the 20 sacks Allen racked up in his first two seasons had NOTHING to do with why Jared wasn't long-snapping, and why Gammon stuck around.

Hell, why doesn't Minnesota let him long-snap? They could save a roster spot.
Posts: 60,750
OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 05:01 PM   #5
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
That's exactly what Vermeil said, dumb ****. Exactly.

"He was drafted to be a deep snapper,'' Cunningham said. "There are a lot of people taking credit for drafting Jared Allen.''

"Our head coach was Dick Vermeil, and he asked me to take a look at him (on film before the draft),'' Cunningham said. "Dick asked me if he could play, and I said, 'No doubt.' Dick said, 'Good, because I'm going to draft him as the deep snapper. I don't want to use that roster spot on game day and I'm going to get rid of the deep snapper and get Jared Allen.' "

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...ve_histor.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 View Post
I'm sure the 20 sacks Allen racked up in his first two seasons had NOTHING to do with why Jared wasn't long-snapping, and why Gammon stuck around.

Hell, why doesn't Minnesota let him long-snap? They could save a roster spot.

something doesnt add up here. hamas' quote says they were going to get rid of the snapper, you say that the 20 sacks in 2 years made them not do it. well IMO if they were going to get rid of gammon why didnt they just do it right off the bat?
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 06:14 PM   #6
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7219572
Quote:
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO View Post
something doesnt add up here. hamas' quote says they were going to get rid of the snapper, you say that the 20 sacks in 2 years made them not do it. well IMO if they were going to get rid of gammon why didnt they just do it right off the bat?
Because they saw him whip ass in rookie camp, and training camp and Gunther and Karmelowicz said they were going to break his finger so he couldn't long snap--he was too valuable.

Classic case of ass over teakettle drafting.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 75,078
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 06:36 PM   #7
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO View Post
something doesnt add up here. hamas' quote says they were going to get rid of the snapper, you say that the 20 sacks in 2 years made them not do it. well IMO if they were going to get rid of gammon why didnt they just do it right off the bat?
Because he was a rookie and Vermeil, like Marty before him, didn't trust rookies.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 06:38 PM   #8
Hootie Hootie is offline
Banned
 
Hootie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Dallas, Texas
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Because he was a rookie and Vermeil, like Marty before him, didn't trust rookies.
Exactly.

That's why it was so hard to replace Boerigter as towel boy when he started playing WR...

They just didn't feel comfortable hiring someone off the street...

Boerigter had to double down as WR/towel boy the following year and that's why his play quickly diminished...

They didn't want to make the same mistake with Allen...so they kept Gammon.
Posts: 56,356
Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Hootie < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 05:01 PM   #9
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $-1645912
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 View Post
I'm sure the 20 sacks Allen racked up in his first two seasons had NOTHING to do with why Jared wasn't long-snapping, and why Gammon stuck around.

Hell, why doesn't Minnesota let him long-snap? They could save a roster spot.
Yeah, and Im sure that him being the NCAA all time sack leader had no impact on him being drafted in the fourth round either.

child, please
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,889
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 05:05 PM   #10
OnTheWarpath15 OnTheWarpath15 is offline
MVP
 
OnTheWarpath15's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $2131115
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post
Yeah, and Im sure that him being the NCAA all time sack leader had no impact on him being drafted in the fourth round either.

child, please
No, that would be the fact that he played for Idaho ****ing State and had numerous alcohol related incidents in college.

But please, continue to call Gunther a liar while having no evidence whatsoever to prove his claims false.
Posts: 60,750
OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.OnTheWarpath15 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 05:13 PM   #11
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 View Post
No, that would be the fact that he played for Idaho ****ing State and had numerous alcohol related incidents in college.

But please, continue to call Gunther a liar while having no evidence whatsoever to prove his claims false.
i know that you cant see this but others can so....

this post makes NO sense. he said that being the ncaa leading sacker was the reason that he went in the fourth round. not because he would be a long snapper. then YOU say that he fell because he played for idaho state and had alcohol incidents.


SOOOOOOO do you or ANYONE else think that the chiefs or any other team would spend a fourth or earlier on an long snapper?
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 05:15 PM   #12
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $-1645912
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 View Post
No, that would be the fact that he played for Idaho ****ing State and had numerous alcohol related incidents in college.

But please, continue to call Gunther a liar while having no evidence whatsoever to prove his claims false.
well, Gun claimed that Dick was gonna take him and release Gammon...never happened so that would be strike one

"Dick asked Gun if Allen could play" so by this you think he had Gun watching special teams film or defensive film? Being he is a defensive coach, I would think he wouldn't be asking him to evaluate how well he could long snap. Strike two

care to strike out?

The thought that we took Jared Allen to mainly be the longsnapper is ****ing ridiculous.

Did he have additional value -in addition to being a good pass rush prospect- in being able to long snap? SURE was that the main reason he was drafted in the fourth round? No, that would be beyond CP foolishness)
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,889
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Hybrid Mode Hybrid Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:36 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.