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Old 09-04-2010, 07:39 PM  
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Chiefs Cuts
Colin Brown, G. Brown, Dion Gales, Bobby Greenwood, Darryl Harris, Herron, Lokey, Morgan, Palko, Price, Tucker, Walters and Javarris Williiams.

Leggett and Urban on IR.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:45 AM   #226
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This is your opinion.

But, to be fair, we don't really know what we exactly have in him.

His playing time has been limited. We haven't seen him play a full NFL season thanks to injuries, his record shows zero wins yes, but were those losses primarily his fault? No. He was on really sh*t teams.
So? Thigpen had a shitty team. So did Cassel.

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To top it off, at the time he was drafted, he was in a sh*tty system learning under the worst set of coaches. I'd like to see how Croyle performs(hopefully he stays healthy) in a better system w/ the tutorledge and guidance of good coaches. It's clear this guy has been involved in sh*tty circumstances and situations throughout his career where a lot hasn't gone in favor. That's just really unfortunate.

*But from what I've seen out of Croyle thus far, I will say his intangibles are there. At this point, he is imo more of a polished player than Cassel is. The guy has a better arm. Period. He can deliver more accurate throws. He has a stronger arm, no doubt about it. Overall his pocket presence is better. He doesn't allow himself to get easily rattled and take sacks. He makes better reads. These are just to name a few.
He's not accurate. He just has a strong arm. Thats it. Watch him this preseason. Receivers barely get any YAC because they're always falling to catch his passes. And stop with this whole "hopefully he stays healthy" shit. He came out of the womb injured.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:45 AM   #227
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If it comes down to Cassel vs. Croyle, who gives a shit what the answer is?
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:46 AM   #228
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If it comes down to Cassel vs. Croyle, who gives a shit what the answer is?
Exactly. Both of them suck donkey balls. So for the time being, I'll take the guy who has wins.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:47 AM   #229
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Hmmm.

Croyle took very few snaps during the pre-season, Mr. KcChiefsKing. And the receivers he was throwing to were rookies, scrubs, and some guy they found in a Burger King named "Lemond".

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Old 09-05-2010, 11:59 AM   #230
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Hmmm.

Croyle took very few snaps during the pre-season, Mr. KcChiefsKing. And the receivers he was throwing to were rookies, scrubs, and some guy they found in a Burger King named "Lemond".

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The reality is that Croyle has done little to nothing almost every time he has seen the field.

Two good drives against Indy a couple of years ago and two good drives against Baltimore last year.

Not nearly enough to suggest for even a sceond that he's anything more than a scrub.
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:00 PM   #232
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If it comes down to Cassel vs. Croyle, who gives a shit what the answer is?

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He's not accurate. He just has a strong arm. Thats it. Watch him this preseason. Receivers barely get any YAC because they're always falling to catch his passes. And stop with this whole "hopefully he stays healthy" shit. He came out of the womb injured.
What's wrong with hoping for a guy to stay healthy? As a fan, you hope for the best and that is what Im doing.

I've watched him this preseason. He's been solid. Okay other than a few bad throws, his passes were crisp, smooth, and on the money most of the time.

It's too bad he is not going to get a chance.
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The reality is that Croyle has done little to nothing almost every time he has seen the field.

Two good drives against Indy a couple of years ago and two good drives against Baltimore last year.

Not nearly enough to suggest for even a sceond that he's anything more than a scrub.
The backup quarterback is always the most popular player.
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:04 PM   #236
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The backup quarterback is always the most popular player.
Not in Indy, New England, Green Bay, Minnesota, Dallas, Houston, San Diego, Baltimore, Cincy, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, DC or New Orleans.
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The backup quarterback is always the most popular player.
As Dane points out, only where the starter sucks.
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:09 PM   #238
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What's wrong with hoping for a guy to stay healthy? As a fan, you hope for the best and that is what Im doing.

I've watched him this preseason. He's been solid. Okay other than a few bad throws, his passes were crisp, smooth, and on the money most of the time.

It's too bad he is not going to get a chance.
Really! From what I saw he made a few good throws and that's about it. If you pay attention you might realize this guy can not stay healthy, did you notice he was injured again this preseason? Sorry but Croyle will never be the answer to our QB problems.
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For what it's worth here are our wonderful QB stats from the preseason. So of those 19 completions for Brokie you're trying to tell me they were all crisp smooth and on the money?





Att. Cmp. Yds. Cmp. % Yds./Att. TD TD% INT Rating

M.Cassel 59 38 293 64.40% 5 3 5.10% 2 79.3
T.Palko 42 24 215 57.10% 5.1 0 0.00% 3 41.3
B.Croyle 31 19 184 61.30% 5.9 0 0.00% 1 64.5
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Really! From what I saw he made a few good throws and that's about it. If you pay attention you might realize this guy can not stay healthy, did you notice he was injured again this preseason? Sorry but Croyle will never be the answer to our QB problems.
I know he can't stay healthy, thats why Im being hopeful

Yes, I thought he made several good throws. Some bad throws too, i.e., the other day he made a throw off his back foot which I thought was a mechanical issue more than anything.


But with a little coaching, those little things can be correctable. He's never had a good coach, played for a coach who ultimately destroys QB's(*Cough* *cough* Herm)..Never played a full season in his career under a good coach. Those things there tell me we don't really know what we have or probably haven't seen enough of what he could do or possibly be?
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