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Old 09-15-2010, 12:23 AM  
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The Browns: Trap Game
Anybody else getting a bad feeling about this Browns game?

We have ourselves a short week, after an incredibly emotional loss. The Browns are not a talented team, but I feel like the youth on this team makes us susceptible to a let down.

Anybody here follow the Browns closely? What are we getting into this week, besides a madhouse that should rival Arrowhead last week?
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:11 PM   #136
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could be a Trap game. this is on Coaches to prep correct. get past the W and play 1 game at a time.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:16 PM   #137
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my brain believes this

but my heart says "when KC drafts a QB it will be the first time (for all intents)"



and if we ditch cassel for yet another team's QB trash....well...you won't see me around because i will have thrown myself off arrowhead wearing a Train t-shirt...
I don't believe they'll draft one. I think it will be a trade or a free agent signing.

What we need is a situation like Brees with San Diego a few years ago, when the Saints were able to get him. But I have no idea who or where that would be. And I'd be fine with trash of that kind, where we're taking a starting-calibre player (although I have to admit I was never a Brees fan prior to 2009 - Trent Green in my mind falls into this category too, as a starter who lost him job due to injury). What I don't want is another situation where we're taking a team's backup and plugging him in to start, a la Bono or Grbac or Cassel.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:38 PM   #138
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Yeah, absolutely. I don't think that Clark Hunt will want to pay for a $7.5 million dollar roster bonus if his QB ends up with a QB rating of less than 90 this year.

Plus, I think Weis would go apeshit.
Isn't it $17.5 million? I thought it was almost $18 million which is closer to $17.5 million than $7.5 million or $5 million or tree fitty, for that matter.

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Old 09-15-2010, 06:42 PM   #139
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It's just a guess, and I know some folks disagree, but I believe if they die with Cassel this year, we'll have another starter in 2011. These guys do not strike me as the kind of personnel people who'll leave a guy in place if he can't get the job done, regardless of how much money they gave him or how much they love him as a person. Mike Brown out the door and two rookie safeties playing tells me that much.
I completely agree with this logic.

I cannot envision a circumstance in which they try to continue to "develop" Cassel if he does not improve this year. No way.

It would take a very large nutsack indeed for Pioli to ask Clark to write that bonus check to Cassel after he posts a QB rating of 70 for the year. Clark may be tiny little fellah, but he's not stupid.

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Old 09-15-2010, 07:07 PM   #140
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Isn't it $17.5 million? I thought it was almost $18 million which is closer to $17.5 million than $7.5 million or $5 million or tree fitty, for that matter.

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Here's his contract details:

7/14/2009: Signed a six-year, $63 million contract. The deal contains $28 million guaranteed, including a $10 million roster bonus in the first year.

2010: $11.75 million (plus a $250,000 workout bonus)

2011: $4.75 million (plus a $7.5 million option bonus)

2012: $5.25 million

2013: $7.5 million

2014: $9 million

2015: Free Agent
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:08 PM   #141
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I don't believe they'll draft one. I think it will be a trade or a free agent signing.

that excites me about as much as Mike Tyson asking if he can use my scrotum for a speed bag...

jesus god we've acquired every type of backup, retread, flash in the pan bench warmer the league has to offer...if pioli follows up this tragic mistake by simply repeating it...well...nothing..just more wasted years...
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:15 PM   #142
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that excites me about as much as Mike Tyson asking if he can use my scrotum for a speed bag...

jesus god we've acquired every type of backup, retread, flash in the pan bench warmer the league has to offer...if pioli follows up this tragic mistake by simply repeating it...well...nothing..just more wasted years...
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst...
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:16 PM   #143
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If Delhomme is out and either Seneca Wallace or Colt McCoy is the QB, then no, I am not worried.
Actually I'd worry more about Seneca Wallace than Jake Delhomme.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:20 PM   #144
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Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst...
they should have that engraved at every entrance to Arrowhead


kind of a gentler "Abandon all hope..."
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Delhomme is a choking int throwing piece of crap



i hope he plays
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:25 PM   #146
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Here's his contract details:

7/14/2009: Signed a six-year, $63 million contract. The deal contains $28 million guaranteed, including a $10 million roster bonus in the first year.

2010: $11.75 million (plus a $250,000 workout bonus)

2011: $4.75 million (plus a $7.5 million option bonus)

2012: $5.25 million

2013: $7.5 million

2014: $9 million

2015: Free Agent
Hmmm. We're missing some money ... unless my brain is defunct ... which is entirely possible.

How much was he paid in 2009 besides the 10 million dollar first year bonus? Do you know?

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Old 09-15-2010, 07:30 PM   #147
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Hmmm. We're missing some money ... unless my brain is defunct ... which is entirely possible.

How much was he paid in 2009 besides the 10 million dollar first year bonus? Do you know?

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His "salary" was $7.5 million, hence the $28 million guaranteed in the first two years ($7.5+10+12).
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:33 PM   #148
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His "salary" was $7.5 million, hence the $28 million guaranteed in the first two years ($7.5+10+12).
Okay ... that adds up.

All this time, I've believed his bonus after this year was just south of 18 million. Must have thought I'd seen that somewhere and believed what I misread.

Thanks for straightening me out.

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Old 09-15-2010, 07:35 PM   #149
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People keep saying that "this administration" will never admit it made a mistake with Cassel and keep him for another year or two. Why? What previous decisions did Pioli make that lead people to that conclusion? When did Pioli insist on playing an underachieving player?
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Okay ... that adds up.

All this time, I've believed his bonus after this year was just south of 18 million. Must have thought I'd seen that somewhere and believed what I misread.

Thanks for straightening me out.

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