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Old 11-16-2010, 06:02 PM  
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I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....
So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:13 PM   #16
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Start winning games because of him and not in spite of him. Consistently. Especially in the playoffs.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:14 PM   #17
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Nothing he can do will change people's minds.
not true at all.

people in KC bashed the hell out of trent green in 2001.

In 2002 he turned things around because he got help around him, and he became a good solid QB to the point ''most'' people in KC liked him. Not to mention he's a class act and intelligent individual (not that MC isn't).

Point is, Green was able to improve and Cassel isn't. People are pissed off he was paid a ton of money to shit the bed.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:14 PM   #18
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Cassel actually did complete a game winning drive against Buffalo.
I would qualify that with leading the Cheifs to more than one game winning drive, when it's not a no lose situation.

That drive against Buffalo was a no lose situation.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:15 PM   #19
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Cassel actually did complete a game winning drive against Buffalo.
Don't let facts get in the way of a Cassel bashing thread /CP
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:15 PM   #20
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Stop advertising who you are throwing to by never looking at other receivers.
Get some pocket presence.
Don't take sacks and throw the ball away.
Throw with accuracy and lead receivers rather than always throwing behind them.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:15 PM   #21
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The lobotomy and re-education alone would take years. I don't think we have time to fix this subject.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:17 PM   #22
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He needs to:

Not lock onto just 1 WR
Needs to learn when the throw the ball away
Needs to be more accurate
Needs to just not be such a ****ing moron behind center.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:19 PM   #23
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1. He needs to check down on WR's rather than stare down his target and tip off the defense.

2. His accuracy needs to improve dramatically on a consistant basis.

3. He stands in the pocket waaaaaaay too long, thus getting sacked and causing holding calls.

4. He throws into tight coverage too damn much (created from staring down his WR) when other options are wide the **** open.

5. His throwing mechanics are a ****ing joke when he goes through a wind up like a MLB pitcher

We don't have to have a Peyton Manning type of QB to be a legit playoff team. A Trent Green would be good enough with the running game and defense.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:19 PM   #24
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I would qualify that with leading the Cheifs to more than one game winning drive, when it's not a no lose situation.

That drive against Buffalo was a no lose situation.
My memory is cloudy but didn't he have a game winning drive against PIT last year?

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admit that he needs to improve
And this. He needs to smell the roses more than anything IMO.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:21 PM   #25
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My memory is cloudy but didn't he have a game winning drive against PIT last year?
Yes. He looked like Joe Montana as he dumped the ball to Chris Chambers six yards down the field.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:22 PM   #26
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My memory is cloudy but didn't he have a game winning drive against PIT last year?


And this. He needs to smell the roses more than anything IMO.
Thus the reason for qualifying that it has to be more than one game winning drive.


Even Steve Bono made one huge late game drive in his career.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:23 PM   #27
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Yes. He looked like Joe Montana as he dumped the ball to Chris Chambers six yards down the field.
The fact is, because defenses are in prevent in most of the situations we are talking about, that is how these drives have to be engineered.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:24 PM   #28
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Thus the reason for qualifying that it has to be more than one game winning drive.


Even Steve Bono made one huge late game drive in his career.
Oh yeah, definately. I saw V Young have a particulary nice game winning drive last year IIRC, and I don't want that fail anywhere near my team.
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The fact is, because defenses are in prevent in most of the situations we are talking about, that is how these drives have to be engineered.
Regardless, I'm not giving credit to Cassel for a "game-winning drive" when all he did was complete one dump off pass.
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Nothing he can do will change people's minds.
Pretty much.
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